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Old 01-27-2008, 07:41 PM #1
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Tadoa Or Virtue For Pmr You Tell Me!

I need some opnions on either a tadoa or virtue... Give reasons to support your idea
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Old 01-27-2008, 08:19 PM #2
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Baseically the same I'll say tadao becasue I got it in my etek and it's great
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Old 01-27-2008, 08:20 PM #3
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Both are good. I have both boards, not for the PMR, but they both give good eye logic and both are fast. Programming the board is the same on both. Both are good and you can't go wrong with either.
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Old 01-27-2008, 08:45 PM #4
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lol so pretty much wat u want since there the same eh ima go with tadao cheaper by $10 =D
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Old 01-27-2008, 09:05 PM #5
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Virtue is a lot more easier to program and comprehend IMO. I have it on my DM7 and it took me no time to set it to 13 bps, where most boards you have to figure out a bunch of different blinking lights ect.
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Old 01-28-2008, 07:20 AM #6
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I've also owned both brands (again, not in a PMR). Both offer a lot of the same features with just one or two differences in each case. Can't say that there was any noticeable difference in trigger response or eye logic to my mind, nor any great advantage of one board over the other - unless one of the unique features one board has over the other is of utmost importance to you of course. As such, cost is as valid a reason as any to make your decision by. I personally prefer the Tadao boards (M7 at any rate) simply because it does everything I need it to, at a lower cost than the Virtue board.
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Old 01-28-2008, 08:37 AM #7
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Virtues are easy to program
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Old 01-28-2008, 09:36 AM #8
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Virtues are easy to program
Tadao is the exact same way to program.

Hold the trigger and turn on the gun.
Tap the trigger to desired setting via LED color/blinks.
Hold the trigger to go into that setting change.
Tap the trigger to adjust the setting value.
Turn off the gun and turn the gun back on and fire.

Both board has the 15bps dip switch and tournament lock dip switch.

Both have the RF chip socket.

Both have the same types of adjustment like dwell, eye delay, rof, ramp activation, ramp rate, etc...
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Old 01-28-2008, 03:51 PM #9
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I don't think Tadao boards have the 15bps switch. Can't comment on older boards, as those I have owned have all been M7, but newer boards have the tournament lock in the form of a small momentary push button switch, and no DIP switches at all. The PM5 board has a pair of DIP switches, but one is to activate ABS, the other the tournament lock.

Having said that, I've never seen the 15bps preset as anything other than a handy shortcut though, and certainly don't see not having this feature as a reason not to purchase a board - after all, with the rate of fire changes that have come in to play, a 15bps switch isn't quite as handy as it used to be, and there was never any telling if the boards 15bps would agree with a tournament timer anyway. So a possibly handy time saver, but not an essential feature.

Other than that, I agree fully. I've never found a Tadao board to be any problem to programme. The '05/'06 Ego boards could be confusing, with multiple LEDs of the same colour, but with the manual to hand, even those are still easy to programme. With the more common multi-colour LED, programming really isn't any different to changing settings on a Virtue board.
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Old 01-28-2008, 08:54 PM #10
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On the Ego6 Tadao, it has dipswitches. Maybe it's different on other markers. I think it's easier to program with LED location and not 3 different LED flickering and giving me headache.
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Old 01-29-2008, 05:45 AM #11
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I'm also considering buying a new board for my PMR. The only advantage to the Virtue board over the Tadao is the name ("Virtue" just sounds good) and the sticker that goes inside the grips to tell you how to program the board.

I play at semi/NPPL-mode fields and occasionally at a place that allows PSP ramping. Every board out there has those options, so mode isn't a big deal to me. Both Tadao and Virtue boards include an NXL mode incase you ever play someplace that allows it, along with full auto for making youtube videos. The breakout, ganster, training, etc., modes are things you really don't need and will probably never use on a field.

The Tadao has a more options to keep the gun from bouncing. The Virtue board has a Debounce and AMB options. The Tadao has Debounce, AMB, and a Cycle Percentage Filter. If you're paranoid about bounce (or the refs where you play are paranoid about bounce...), the Tadao will be a better bet.

So, as far as I can tell from the excel spreadsheet I've been putting together:
1. Virtue has the little sticker that goes inside the grips so you don't need to carry the manual around if you need to adjust a setting. http://www.paintballstar.com/pn/modu...=2&page_id=549
2. Tadao has a cycle percentage filter.

Everyone claims to have better eye logic, better trigger logic, a faster processor, etc., but I haven't seen anyone actually post details, so I don't see much reason to trust that.

You might also want to look into the 7th Element board. At $75, it's about half the price of a virtue or Tadao board. It has the same basic set of options as the virtue boards (without the sticker...), but adds an auto shutoff and sounds. Personally, I think this is what I'm going to end up purchasing.
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Old 01-29-2008, 07:36 AM #12
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On the Ego6 Tadao, it has dipswitches. Maybe it's different on other markers. I think it's easier to program with LED location and not 3 different LED flickering and giving me headache.
Strange, my Tadao '06 Ego board only has the momentary push button switch on it - no DIP switches at all.


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Old 01-29-2008, 08:18 AM #13
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Crap, I think your right, I might or gotten it confused with the other boards I've been playing around with lately.
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Old 01-29-2008, 08:49 AM #14
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Not 100% positive, but I think Virtue and 7th Element are the only boards at the moment that have the rate of fire preset via a DIP switch. Well..... Other than boards that adjust rate of fire via a bank of DIP switches of course.
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Old 01-29-2008, 09:03 AM #15
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Chan, maybe you are thinking of the Ver C T-board? it has those two DIP switches.
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Old 01-29-2008, 09:33 AM #16
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Scenario Dreams T-Board also has dip switches too.

I'm wrong, my fault.

I've been playing around with some of my other markers that uses dipswitches and the only one I haven't been playing with adjustments is the Ego which uses push button.

Stock boards from Dangerous Power uses dipswitches too.
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