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Old 01-25-2008, 10:20 PM #925
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that A1 plus everything it can come with for my marq

how much cash should i make him add for my baby
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:23 PM #926
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i would do the rl or the ego 7
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:28 PM #927
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that A1 plus everything it can come with for my marq

how much cash should i make him add for my baby
He says he can't add any .
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:34 PM #928
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i would do the rl or the ego 7
im now sponsered by angel i HAVE to shoot an a1, do you honestly think i would trade my marq(aka left nut) for an a1.ROFL....**** no
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He says he can't add any .
ik, its good deal for me regardless but i always ask if they can add some cash too.
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:36 PM #929
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edit: i heard angel is coming out with a new gun so i dunno

once the new angel comes out the a1 will go to **** on resale
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:41 PM #930
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yeah i guess its an a1 fly. just an a1 with improved iternals. oh yeah and different milling
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:46 PM #931
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yeah i guess its an a1 fly. just an a1 with improved iternals. oh yeah and different milling
That's more changes/improvements than most companies make from one model to the next.
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:49 PM #932
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My main problems with the A1:

-Kick (too much for an '07 high-end gun)
-Noise (seriously, even ego's are getting quieter...)
-Looks (milling = boring, spice it up)

The new internals should fix the kick, the noise will still probably be there (and probably always will), and the looks might get better. If they don't change the look of that ugly *** reg and the boring patterns in the body, they're going to lose interest quick.

-edit- and HP capability is a must
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:52 PM #933
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You can shoot any type of angel. Unless the contract has been reworded from the previous years. I had to shoot an angel for two years. I stuck with the 06 speed. They are really nice. I don't like the way the a1's feel anyways. And if the tech class is offered in your area, I would suggest taking it. It will pay off in the long run, especially if you get acredidated to do it... (like me)
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:53 PM #934
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My main problems with the A1:

-Kick (too much for an '07 high-end gun)
-Noise (seriously, even ego's are getting quieter...)
-Looks (milling = boring, spice it up)

The new internals should fix the kick, the noise will still probably be there (and probably always will), and the looks might get better. If they don't change the look of that ugly *** reg and the boring patterns in the body, they're going to lose interest quick.

-edit- and HP capability is a must
When you get it tuned right, the kick is very minimal. The noise could be a little less, but the new internals will decrease that as well (lower operating pressure = less noise). I personally really like the looks, and the way that the reg flows with the design. But that's really just my opinion. Although there are workarounds to it, the HP issue is one of it's major pitfalls, though. I will admit that.
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:54 PM #935
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For the ION, $130 or this:
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Could i sell that for like $60?

And is $350 for my NXT good?
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:56 PM #936
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The kick really isn't minimal, its average. I'd expect more from a $1000 marker.

-edit- take the $130 kyle
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:59 PM #937
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kk, what about the $350? How much more could I get for the NXT?
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kick on an A1 isnt super bad if you run lp
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$350 is low, ask for $375 + shipping
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The real problem is that it's really an 06 gun. WDP was foolish to not release an 07 gun. That made everybody think that the A1 was really an 07 gun since they were still producing it. Because it was largely unchanged since it's release, it can't really hang as well with the other '07 guns. This also gave off the impression that WDP was weak in general, therefore many people who would have otherwise gone for the next gun now will not. Their reputation is really gonna be depending on the A1 fly.
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Old 01-25-2008, 11:06 PM #941
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Wasn't there a gen2 A1 released in '07 that supposedly fixed all those little problems that A1 owners were experiencing?
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Wasn't there a gen2 A1 released in '07 that supposedly fixed all those little problems that A1 owners were experiencing?
They released them sometime in 07 several months after the A1 release. However, they were really just to fix bugs with the gun. There were no real performance gains associated with them, to my knowledge.
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Exactly, there were no performance gains. Meaning WDP's '07 markers were no better than their competitor's '06 markers. Instead of coming out with something new, they shot themselves in the foot by matching year-old performance standards. That would explain why WDP's '07 markers are worth $200 less than Dye/PE's '07 markers.
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My main problems with the A1:

-Kick (too much for an '07 high-end gun)
-Noise (seriously, even ego's are getting quieter...)
-Looks (milling = boring, spice it up)

The new internals should fix the kick, the noise will still probably be there (and probably always will), and the looks might get better. If they don't change the look of that ugly *** reg and the boring patterns in the body, they're going to lose interest quick.

-edit- and HP capability is a must
They should make it where you can change out the reg without buying an optional asa. They should also use cocker barrels. I think that would greatly help with sales.
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Exactly, there were no performance gains. Meaning WDP's '07 markers were no better than their competitor's '06 markers. Instead of coming out with something new, they shot themselves in the foot by matching year-old performance standards. That would explain why WDP's '07 markers are worth $200 less than Dye/PE's '07 markers.
That's exactly my point. They let themselves fall behind the competition by not producing a new gun. While in 06, the A1 was a top competitor, they didn't advance with the rest of the highend market, leaving them behind. They are still nice, but many performance aspects of other 07 guns surpass those of the A1.
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