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Old 02-03-2008, 02:40 PM #1
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Hey peeps im a ref working at a paintball field in Virginia and heres how it works for me anyhow...The owner pays all his refs 45 bucks a day under the table now take into account that we dont get free lunch or any minor thing for free and we dont get any discounts what so ever my work hours are from 8:30 a.m. to about 6-7 p.m....thats about a 9-10 hour work day so 45 bucks a day divided by that is about like what...$4.50 an hour when the minimum wage here is about 7 somethingso im getting screwed up my rear-end here...besides that point no1 has a W4 form that they sign and the owner only pays the head ref 9 bucks an hour and the other day i received a 1099 form sayin i owe 33% taxes on 950 bucks...so if thats true that im paying my own taxes that amounts to what...2 something an hour...so i didnt go to work today and my co workers are callin me telling me how its unacceptable to not be there working well to be honest im not gona work for $4.50 an hour and pay my own taxes hes paying illegally ad avoiding taxes so i have no plans on going back there what so ever unless he pays minimum wage and takes out taxes ad ss...do u think i am doig the right thing or the wrong thing i just want to know where people stand on this issue or is it just me that thinks this way because my co workers think im being to harsh to the owner so what do u think?
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Old 02-03-2008, 02:44 PM #2
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you will need to file a wage complaint with your states labor department.
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Old 02-03-2008, 02:45 PM #3
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i would be pissed if i was you....i would ask that you pay my taxes.....give me paint and discounts as well as 450 an hour...or give me minimum wage


and threten to call the bbb...there website is bbb.com
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Old 02-03-2008, 02:52 PM #4
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i would be pissed if i was you....i would ask that you pay my taxes.....give me paint and discounts as well as 450 an hour...or give me minimum wage


and threten to call the bbb...there website is bbb.com
He probably doesnt make $4,000 a year so he doesnt pay taxes....but i would be pretty pissed. Were i work we get minimum wage which is 5.85 an hour. small discounts and no lunch.
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Old 02-03-2008, 03:10 PM #5
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wow that's crazy. He should ATLEAST include field entry and free air. And maybe 500 rounds.
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Old 02-03-2008, 03:15 PM #6
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This doesn't make sense....if you're getting money under the table, why are you getting taxed?? Did you happen to file the money on your tax form or something?
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Old 02-03-2008, 03:16 PM #7
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Don't like it, don't go back. Just that simple. Can't see why you are even discussing it here.
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Old 02-03-2008, 03:22 PM #8
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He probably doesnt make $4,000 a year so he doesnt pay taxes....but i would be pretty pissed. Were i work we get minimum wage which is 5.85 an hour. small discounts and no lunch.
Did you even read the first post? He pays taxes...
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Old 02-03-2008, 03:49 PM #9
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you're basically screwed. you can't go to the labor board and say, "hey, the guy was paying me under teh table......bla bla bla...." since that would make your intentions illegal. it seems he's labeled you 'contract worker' which you not only need to pay state and federal taxes from but all of your social security taxes as well. if you are a direct employee of a company, they pay 1/2 your social security taxes. since you are a contract worker, you must pay all your social security taxes. did you make any tips throughout the year? you must claim those as well. if he's done the same thing to your co workers, tell them this and see if they now think you're being to harsh. you've all been screwed
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Old 02-03-2008, 04:00 PM #10
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Here is my problem. You signed up for the deal. You allowed this to happen knowingly. You gave him your social security number. And now it is a problem, he did take advantage and you bent over to say please.
I suggest you get everyone to strike the place, march out front with signs or make a deal with the owner that is better than the first one you made.
Act like and adult and don't be stupid again.
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Old 02-03-2008, 04:07 PM #11
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Here is my problem. You signed up for the deal. You allowed this to happen knowingly. You gave him your social security number. And now it is a problem, he did take advantage and you bent over to say please.
I suggest you get everyone to strike the place, march out front with signs or make a deal with the owner that is better than the first one you made.
Act like and adult and don't be stupid again.
Eh Id already be out of there

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Old 02-03-2008, 04:41 PM #12
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Old 02-03-2008, 04:43 PM #13
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thats messed i work at a store/field i get $10 an hour n e thing i buy i get the wholesale price nd i get free lunch drinks and air nd hes a hella cool guy ti work for
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Old 02-03-2008, 06:56 PM #14
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im not stupid by far and im pretty smart so dot critisize me when u dont know all the facts ive given u most but not all and there was no signing up for anything it was free cash for the weekend and i did give him my ss due to the fact he said he was gonna pay our taxes and ss and FICA and what not but he also labled me as a self employed contracter so he lied to me and trust me ive reported him already no need im just asking your opinions on the matter weather u think im the bad guy or not the other employees seem to think so even though they been screwed to and they know it but they dont have the guts to say otherwise and dont critisize someone u dont know...so like i said the question is do u think im the bad guy for not goin into work or do u agree with my co workers?
and FTW PAINTBALL i am an adult and because he lied to me doesnt make me stupid

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Old 02-03-2008, 07:22 PM #15
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I am assuming you asked the Field / Shop owners what they thought. Your question not mine. I responded in an honest and fair manor. You need to not fall for scames like this again, ever. It is your job in life to care of your self and others around you. This is one of the oldest scams out since they started paying taxes. How did I know you gave him your social security number. Ya I am older and have seen people taken advantage of. You need to think past the weekend of free cash and start thinking long term in all your actions and how they can effect you long term. I am trying to help you, you seem like a great guy!!

And yes you take care of the other people and friends there even if they don't want you too, later in life you will be thankful you did.
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Old 02-03-2008, 07:25 PM #16
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Who cares its your choice not ur co-workers if they wanna be dicks about it let them just know your not gettin screwed like they r if u quit
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Old 02-04-2008, 12:33 AM #17
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If we are talking about the field that I used to work for (Granted I made $60/day)....you are actually working as an independent contractor which if I am not mistaken somehow dodges wage laws.

I am entirely unfamiliar with the subject of wage laws so I may be wrong.

I never was asked to pay taxes though and only heard of 1 kid even getting a W2 (I worked their several years ago)
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Old 02-04-2008, 12:43 AM #18
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If we are talking about the field that I used to work for (Granted I made $60/day)....you are actually working as an independent contractor which if I am not mistaken somehow dodges wage laws.

I am entirely unfamiliar with the subject of wage laws so I may be wrong.

I never was asked to pay taxes though and only heard of 1 kid even getting a W2 (I worked their several years ago)
I am very experienced in wage law. Referees can not simply be declared independent contractors. There are very specific rules about this. Fields that clasify their day to day referees as IC's are in for a world of hurt ($) when they get busted. They need to follow the law.
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Old 02-04-2008, 01:45 AM #19
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Old 02-04-2008, 08:29 AM #20
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Hey thanks everyone for you opinions i really appreciate it but yes i did call the IRS on him and ill be goin there one last time to pick up my 90 dollar pay check then not going back and FTW PAINTBALL i appreciate your commets aswell i was not tryin to be mean at all =) thanks. Well we will see what happens and all i was here for was to find out if i was the only one who thought i was doing the rigt thing or if i was the bad guy in this situation and VApaintballer400 what field did u work at? and if im right this person who u said u ever heard of getting a W2 would be the owners son?
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Old 02-04-2008, 09:54 AM #21
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1099 is not payment under the table
but you wouldnt quailfy as a contractor doing the ref job
by law you are due min wage !!! the 1099 is issued when you pay someone as a contractor for more than i think 600 a year
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