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Old 12-17-2007, 11:29 AM #1
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Jan 29,30 2008 Floirdas First X Ball tournament

You players wanted it, now you got it. Now in order to continue to throw xball tournaments it is up to you. Participation from teams all over Florida is a must!!! So go tell all your friends and everyone that doesnt know. Here are the details.

Saturday Jan 26, 2008 is D3
Sunday Jan 27, 2008 is D2

Entry Fee will be only $400. Air will be $10 per person.

All matches will be D3 format. Slightly modified.

Payouts will be %50 %20 if under 7 teams and %40 %20 %10 if 8 or over.

Look for the 1rst place payout to be between $1200-$1800. Depending on how many teams.

You will be guranteed 4 matches in prelims. After the tournament you are welcome to stay and play. Matches will begin at 9am and the field will be setup like Socal Open soon as the layout comes out.

Registration begins now. Maximum of 10 teams each day. We will be looking to do this a month before every psp event.
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Old 12-17-2007, 11:56 AM #2
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I just recieved a pm with a couple good questions. I will answer them here so everyone knows the answers

Is this psp format?
Yes it will all be D3 psp format with a couple rules slightly modified those modified rules will be posted later but this will be the most be almost identical to psp.

Byop?
Yes it will be byop. We all know you guys have paint sponsors. Severe will be available at the field at team prices.

How many on the roster?
You can have up to 13 players and 2 coaches. if you have 13 players you are only looking at about 31$ per person entry. How could you go wrong with this?
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Old 12-17-2007, 04:22 PM #3
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Old 12-17-2007, 05:28 PM #4
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I think we might go. It just depends cause the cfp tourny is like the weekend or 2 before.
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Old 12-17-2007, 05:33 PM #5
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sorry dates have been adjusted
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Old 12-17-2007, 05:39 PM #6
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How are you going to verify player status for 2008 rankings and how are you going to figure out the winner. This will give me an idea of how many cases of paint will be needed to play the event. Will you have a board for time keeping along with airlines on the field?
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Old 12-17-2007, 05:58 PM #7
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Air will be in the pits. And we are trying to figure out the best way to do the scoreboard. But yes there will be a scoreboard. You will have a minimum of 4 matches for the prelims. Depending on how many teams you will be looking at between 1 to 4 matches for semi finals or just finals.
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Old 12-17-2007, 06:01 PM #8
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How many fields?
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Old 12-17-2007, 06:07 PM #9
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just one.....its all we need thats why we are capping it at 10 teams
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Old 12-17-2007, 06:16 PM #10
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So if you have 10 teams that means you are going to run 40 prelim matches on 1 field? Doesnt that seem kinda long considering each match is at least 15 minutes long. Then you need time for the next team to get their things into the pit and so forth.
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Old 12-17-2007, 06:22 PM #11
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we already got the schedule and we are looking at only having 6-8 teams. Btw it is not 40 matches. Its actually only 20.
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Old 12-17-2007, 06:23 PM #12
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I appreciate the modified D3 format and I only have a 3 part question: what is the highest PSP class of player allowed and is there a cap (for roster count) on this level and the last is are you requiring a valid APPA (PSP) from 07 to validate (not interested in what class they play in 08...just interested in say their last event IE probably CUP..unless a new team)..thanks
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Old 12-17-2007, 06:26 PM #13
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Ok wait isnt 10 teams x 4 matches each=40 but whatever.
Xball is awsome anyways. Also will the prizes be cash or equipment that=a certain amount of money?
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Old 12-17-2007, 06:31 PM #14
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Ok wait isnt 10 teams x 4 matches each=40 but whatever.
Xball is awsome anyways. Also will the prizes be cash or equipment that=a certain amount of money?
your mulitplication is correct, but two teams play in one match. so you divide that by 2.
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Old 12-17-2007, 06:33 PM #15
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Thats right i forgot. Thanks
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Old 12-17-2007, 06:43 PM #16
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exactly when 1 plays 4 you dont count when 4 played 1 lol. For the roster ? it will be exactly like the psp. You must have your psp id from last year. I have friends from psp and appa. If there is any sand bagging or anything like that the team will DQ with no refund. This is really to get some good practice in before the psp events with a reward for the bests teams out there.
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Old 12-17-2007, 06:51 PM #17
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Good job with this tournament. Im talking to the team to see if we can do it. We will at least do one for sure.
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Old 12-17-2007, 07:11 PM #18
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Lots of good questions glad to see so much interest in xball. We will do our best to keep out the sand baggers. Like Steve said if there were to be any sand baggin the team will be DQed. The best thing to do is ask if you have a question. We will ask for rosters a few days before the event and we will check them. Well this should be a great event, lets start registering.
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Old 12-17-2007, 10:32 PM #19
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Hi Bob,

How are you? It's good to know that you are still involved in organizing events and playing. Listen here a few concerns for me. If you run 4 matches per team in the semis- and then 4 in the finals with 5 point games teams will shoot between 56 to 80 cases of paint. If you were to buy low grade paint for $35.00 a case you are looking at $2000.00 to 3000.00 in paint alone. To that you add air and admission and you are well over $2600.00 for the day. Divide that amongst an average of 10 players per team and you are looking at $260.00 to $300.00 per player for the day plust traveling expenses. If you won the event the most you can win is $1600.00 if caped to 8 teams givin the winning team a total loss of somewhere around $1000.00 for the day.

So the question is how do you resolve that? You either limit the amount of matches to 4 over all for the day per team and or modify time to half the time of regulation on the clock in addition to race to 3 points rather than 5.

However you do it, you need to have the rules ready. In addition I trully think that you need to get with Chris Rahel and use his registration process. It is well worth it and you guys can allow the use of PSP ID Cards which they can purchase for the 2008 season. Otherwise, sandbagging is unavoidable.

I am not trying to be negative, I am just trying to find a way to help you organize an event that is going to draw the teams. With as meny other events you know that teams are likely to choose tournaments that either are afordable or give them the opportunity to profit from. I think you have to think this one out a little better and yes you may draw a few teams to your first one but what hapens after that one if they dont win and spend a fortune? With the limited amount of teams available in the state you have to structure it properly. Again, I am playing alittle of devils advocate here and I am also going to try to bring a team out providing I can make financial sense out of it.

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Old 12-17-2007, 10:55 PM #20
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Yes Bob and I understand your concerns. I do believe that we will do 4 matches in prelims and one finals match. If under 7 teams only 1st and 2nd of prelims will play for the finals. If over 8 teams then 3rd and 4th will also play a match for third. So at the most you will play 5 matches. With only 5 matches you should atleast be close to breaking even for the day. Think about it this tournament will be as good as like 2 or 3 practices so it will be worth it!!!!! Its not about the tournament and the prizes its about shooting the paint and getting in the practice before the event. With 4 or 5 matches your looking at 20 games at the least and anywhere up to 35 games. That is definetly worth a couple practices. This could be the one practice you need to get your team to do 10 times better in the psp. It doesnt matter what I make the entry the paint is gonna be the problem. If you would like and other people would agree i will change the point race to 4 with a 12 min clock. Let me know what you think about that.
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Old 12-18-2007, 05:54 AM #21
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I will be sure to make it to the event even if I don't have a team put together.
It should be fun either way.
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