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Old 06-22-2014, 07:14 PM #1
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DM14 ROF problem

hey guys, so being from ontario, canada and playing in the cxbl where the rof cap is 15.4 I have come upon an odd problem that I havnt had with past DM models. with the board set to 15 bps, when shooting with the eyes on it only manages to shoot 12-13bps but with eyes off it shoots up to the cap of 15. ive gone through all the typical stuff like resetting the board, changing batteries, upped lpr to see if the bolt was going too slow. also it currently has the bwing bolt but it also had this problem when I had the stock in it too.

let me know any info on what may be going on. any input is appreciated.

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Old 06-22-2014, 08:28 PM #2
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I feel like the LPR is in too much Try stock LPR settings
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Old 06-22-2014, 08:30 PM #3
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I feel like the LPR is in too much Try stock LPR settings
tried that, upped it back to stock and problem was still there. what has me confused is that it will shoot 15 fine with eyes off but not when eyes are on.
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Old 06-22-2014, 08:45 PM #4
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Weird.
First thing that I think is either the eyes are bad, and going into default. Which would cap it at a lower rof. But you said its 12-13 bps.
Then I think it's just the Eyepipe is scratched or damaged, again which would cause the board to go into default.
Could it be possibly be shooting less than 12-13bps, and maybe 10bps?
If so, I'd check the eyes to see if they are actually registering (do the finger test and see if color changes on board).
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Old 06-23-2014, 05:14 AM #5
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ok.. woke up this morning. and forgot to say something last night in my post.

take the eyepipe out, and do the finger test to check and see if the eyes are working properly.
sometimes, the eye retainer isnt set properly in the channel in the body, and when you put the eyepipe in, can cause the eyes to misalign, thus causing the board to go to default (lower rof).
check that first.
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Old 06-23-2014, 04:21 PM #6
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Did the finger test with and without eye pipe, both times eyes registered fine. Still stumped
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Old 06-23-2014, 09:34 PM #7
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hey guys, so being from ontario, canada and playing in the cxbl where the rof cap is 15.4 I have come upon an odd problem that I havnt had with past DM models. with the board set to 15 bps, when shooting with the eyes on it only manages to shoot 12-13bps but with eyes off it shoots up to the cap of 15. ive gone through all the typical stuff like resetting the board, changing batteries, upped lpr to see if the bolt was going too slow. also it currently has the bwing bolt but it also had this problem when I had the stock in it too. let me know any info on what may be going on. any input is appreciated. thanks guys
How are you measuring the bps?? Does it just seem like it is shooting less than 15 or are u using a machine to calculate it?
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Old 06-23-2014, 09:59 PM #8
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Shot it over a chronograph and it came up 12bps for one stream and 13 for the next. Also can tell going from eyes on to eyes off that there is a rof difference. Also no eye malfunction either, eyes on the light is solid green and not flashing as if it had a problem.
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Old 06-24-2014, 04:40 AM #9
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Shot it over a chronograph and it came up 12bps for one stream and 13 for the next. Also can tell going from eyes on to eyes off that there is a rof difference. Also no eye malfunction either, eyes on the light is solid green and not flashing as if it had a problem.
I noticed a similar problem actual when I was adjusting my LPR settings. The gun was shooting very quickly when I dry fired it after tuning down the LPR but when there was paint in the gun it was shooting much slower. I figured out the LPR was too low. I'm not sure why having paint in the gun vs dry firing would make a difference but I would try turning the LPR pressure up and see if that helps.
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Old 06-24-2014, 08:09 AM #10
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Ive tried turing it up a bit before but maybe not enough, if that doesnt work ill take a video tonight of the problem and put it up.
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Old 06-24-2014, 01:36 PM #11
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up'd the LPR by a turn and a half, problem still persisted. going to call dye tomorrow to see what they might think is going on.
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Old 06-24-2014, 08:42 PM #12
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Just thinkin' out loud here, but have you tried a different loader?
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Old 06-24-2014, 11:27 PM #13
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Make sure your Green Light is on 1 Blink only. I had the same issue with mine, and no matter what rate of fire I put it will always seem like 10-12 BPS. Until I changed the Green Light to one blink only. Make sure you are using good batteries on both the GUN and Hopper. My 2 Cents.
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Old 06-25-2014, 01:48 AM #14
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Just thinkin' out loud here, but have you tried a different loader?
^x2. What type of hopper are you using?? That might make a difference
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Old 06-25-2014, 01:55 AM #15
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Make sure your Green Light is on 1 Blink only. I had the same issue with mine, and no matter what rate of fire I put it will always seem like 10-12 BPS. Until I changed the Green Light to one blink only. Make sure you are using good batteries on both the GUN and Hopper. My 2 Cents.
How do you change the green light blink? Are you talking about trigger sensitivity settings?
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My thought is that the loader will have no effect.

If the loader can feed 15 bps with the eyes off, then turning the eyes in the marker on is not going to slow the loader down.

For some reason, the board is limiting the rate of fire when the eyes are on.
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Old 06-25-2014, 04:34 AM #17
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Yeah those are my thoughts too, the board is holding it back on eyes on but eyes off it lets it hit the 15 bos cap. And just for the sake of info im using a rotor with fresh batteries
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Old 06-25-2014, 08:21 AM #18
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Im leaning towards a faulty set of eyes right now, might try trading eyes with a team mate to see if it solves anything.
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How do you change the green light blink? Are you talking about trigger sensitivity settings?
You go put the two switches on the dip switch on the "ON" Position. You have now entered programing mode. The gun will immediately cycle through all different colors and it will stop in Green, which sets Trigger Sensitivity. Now that its on green you have to hold it down until it starts blinking and it will tell you its current value. Now you pull the trigger as many times needed to set new value. Trigger Sensitivity values are from 1-20(3 Default) To finish just now just turn Dip switch 2 to the "OFF" position. You are done.

Trigger Sensitivity is the amount of time that the trigger has to be released before the next trigger pull is allowed.
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You go put the two switches on the dip switch on the "ON" Position. You have now entered programing mode. The gun will immediately cycle through all different colors and it will stop in Green, which sets Trigger Sensitivity. Now that its on green you have to hold it down until it starts blinking and it will tell you its current value. Now you pull the trigger as many times needed to set new value. Trigger Sensitivity values are from 1-20(3 Default) To finish just now just turn Dip switch 2 to the "OFF" position. You are done. Trigger Sensitivity is the amount of time that the trigger has to be released before the next trigger pull is allowed.
Ya that shouldn't change the ROF settings unless you marker is double shooting. I have mine set on 1 but I see no difference between 1 and stock of 3.
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curious if you got this sorted out
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