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Old 09-27-2014, 11:10 PM #1
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Dm14 tweaks/mods

Hey guys Im making a write-up of the changes that i am making to my marker. This will be updated as I dream up things and decide to share.


DM14 MAGNETIZED TRIGGER

Okay lets be frank here, The Dm14 trigger from the factory is somewhere between a nail gun and a stapler.

Credit where Credit is due.

WHAT YOU NEED.
Gorilla glue epoxy (or whatever mix two brand you want)
K&J Magnets(see the above thread for links)
Pliers or hemostats
Standard allen wrenches
patience

1. Locate your spring




2. Take it out!


3. Locate your big magnet


4. Take a larger allen key and let it stick to it. Take this magnet and jam it into the spring pocket. no gluing necessary


5. Grab your small magnet and check polarity. make sure they are pushing away from each other


6. Glue to your spring adjustment screw. Let it sit for X hours. put it back in your trigger.







7. Adjust and enjoy!

UL ASA hard to turn on? lets adjust it.
So again being frank, some of us didn't win the ASA lottery. As a result turning on the air can be similar to loading a magazine (and it really shouldnt be)

If your asa lever freely moves over the bump do not bother with this tweak!

WHAT YOU WILL NEED:
a hair dryer
something thin and sharp
A replacement jewel if you mess up. (a couple of bucks)
Allen wrenches

1.Locate your asa Lever and jewel



2. Heat the jewel with a hair dryer for a few minutes and pry it out.





3. Reveal the allen key screw!



4.Loosen by a quarter-half turn. work the lever back and forth and verify that it is much easier to actuate.


5. Put your Jewel back in and heat again.

NOTE: This is just one way to reduce the force necessary to actuate the ASA. If you are still using an 850 psi tank it is still going to be difficult to turn on.

Dm14 microswitch change

So The story here is Dye went with a Micro switch that requires more grams to actuate. This, coupled with thier stronger trigger springs this year makes for an appalling trigger pull.

Luckily there is a solution and that is the Omron D2f-FL-A1. HERE


This micro switch is what Virtue typically uses in their boards and it results in a MUCH lighter and faster trigger pull.

The method this needs to be done is to De-soldier the three points on the Circuit board and put this switch in its place.

WHAT YOU WILL NEED:


New Microswitch

Soldering Iron

Fine tip on said soldering iron

Ultra-fine solder


Solder braid to absorb the solder (vaccum works too)


WHAT TO DO

Steps are simple but hard to execute.


Desolder and wick these three points


Desolder and wick these three points


Remove old switch.

Place new switch in place of old one Be sure to place the switch as far back as possible to ensure the most trigger adjustment. If the switch is hanging over the edge of the board you wont have much room to adjust.

Resolder the three points on the board

Adjust trigger to your liking

I had a professional electrical engineer do my switch he has agreed to help people on the PBN who would like their switches done. PM me if interested.

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Old 09-27-2014, 11:11 PM #2
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1.Softer orings

Read about it HERE





2. Best Lube for my DM14 (or any dm)


3. Bolt hard to pull out


4. Dm14 trigger solutions



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Old 09-28-2014, 09:33 PM #3
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Old 09-29-2014, 01:20 PM #4
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Man Raz, you rock!

Thanks for the mods and the help with everything Dye
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Old 09-30-2014, 11:00 PM #5
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Man Raz, you rock!

Thanks for the mods and the help with everything Dye
Thanks man! I have dreams of making it into the sticky someday! lol

Some new stuff added today at the end of Post #1 and Post #2
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Old 09-30-2014, 11:47 PM #6
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hey raz, great video!
i agree not very scientific but i just earlier tonight post about LPR tuning and you are covering on a lot of my questions! Now i know where to "start"
thanks again!
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:26 PM #7
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Hey Raz, could I order an oring kit and magnetic trigger kit if you have a spare?
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:54 PM #8
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Yep throw in the magnets for $5

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Old 10-04-2014, 10:18 PM #9
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Just made 5 posts, I honestly just signed up to order your oring kit lol
I don't know if I'll get bashed for this but I'm a MCB guy

Pm ing you now
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Old 10-07-2014, 02:52 PM #10
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I'm getting my Featherlight trigger switch put in today!!!!!!! Can't wait to report back!
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Words cannot describe how much better my trigger is now!!!!

Should I make a video!?!?
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How can I order a prong kit & magnet kit from you?
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Old 10-08-2014, 12:08 PM #14
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later today I am going to add stuff about putting in a featherlight trigger switch
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Words cannot describe how much better my trigger is now!!!!

Should I make a video!?!?
Of course you should make a video!

Your one for the bolt orings was super helpful.
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Of course you should make a video!

Your one for the bolt orings was super helpful.
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I'll make the video soon. I had an interview today and have been busy preparing for that!

Ordered some 50 durometer 015s! For ****s and giggles
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Old 10-09-2014, 05:13 PM #18
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I can't watch the video yet but 2 things. I can definitely see where softer orings would create more cushion on bumper orings but it seems that a soft orings would grip harder (be stickier) requiring more pressure to move it. More than a hard orings. 2 hard objects slide on each other much easier than a soft object on a hard surface. Does that not make sense? I'm no engineer but my logic tells me that. But obviously you have results showing otherwise.
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I can't watch the video yet but 2 things. I can definitely see where softer orings would create more cushion on bumper orings but it seems that a soft orings would grip harder (be stickier) requiring more pressure to move it. More than a hard orings. 2 hard objects slide on each other much easier than a soft object on a hard surface. Does that not make sense? I'm no engineer but my logic tells me that. But obviously you have results showing otherwise.

The experiment results are already in. The lower durometer orings "grab" the sealing surfaces with less force. Resulting in significantly less breakaway friction
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So will the new DM15 reg grip fit on the 14? I guess I'm asking hypothetically because no one can really know yet. The grips are already on pre-order on websites so that's why I'm bringing this up
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So will the new DM15 reg grip fit on the 14? I guess I'm asking hypothetically because no one can really know yet. The grips are already on pre-order on websites so that's why I'm bringing this up
Well the one thread had alot of BS flying in it but supposedly " a dye rep said the 15 will accept 14 grips."

If it goes one way maybe it will go the other?

I'm getting angry at the people who are licking thier chops at "$400 dm14s"

I don't get it. If the 14 is already a great value and the 15 is an incremental upgrade... Wouldn't the 15 shed value and the 14 stabilize?

We should be like wall street and collude on prices. Agree on a floor of $650 or something.
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