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Old 05-27-2016, 04:53 PM #1
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Classic mag + co2, which expansion chamber?

My friend is giving me a classic mag he's had in storage for 10+ years and I want to have a nice mech that will handle co2 or hpa well.

I've got a small angled mini drop (scavenged off an old spyder) and I was wondering which X chamber to choose?

An ACI subzero 4 stage or a Dead On X-core 8 stage. I don't really want one of the ginormous ones that extend really far below the grip frame's bottom and so narrowed it down to those two.

I'm not looking at this as my primary gun or even primary mech, just a fun project / loaner and co2 capable so I can play in the woods at a couple of places where HPA isn't readily available.

Thoughts?


Edit: I was also thinking of an RT on/off, lvl 10 bolt, and Helios body when I can afford them. Are those co2 compatible? Probably going to leave it single trigger to keep the ROF co2 friendly and slap a CP barrel on it. Oh, and what is up with he trend of automags and short barrels? I've seen more pictures of mags with 6-10" barrels than any other gun.

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Old 05-27-2016, 07:00 PM #2
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Just get an HPA tank, forget the CO2.

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Old 05-27-2016, 07:19 PM #3
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I have 3 HPA tanks and 6 guns, only one of which I feel comfortable running on co2, a GoG Enmey. My hometown only has co2 fills available.

I like projects. Right now I'm injured and can't play so I build and tinker and loan things out to friends and family

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Old 05-28-2016, 09:11 AM #4
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It's not like mags never ran on co2. . I would skip making it R/T. But main things is expansion chamber and anti-siphon for the tank you want to use with it.
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Old 05-31-2016, 07:18 PM #5
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Cool, thanks!

I have an RT rail and a VASA that doesn't seem to fit. It's grooved on the top and I think it needs a flat topped one.


Edit:

The vasa was a classic but didn't fit the RT length rail I had. Got an RT pro ASA and it's all good

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Old 06-19-2016, 02:48 AM #6
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So I found out the ACI subzero is a better expansion chamber than the x-core. I researched and then just got both, at 10-13 a piece they were cheap enough. X-core is way comfier and more ergonomic though.

I dug up another angled drop forward for it. A different friend had a SP drop in their toolbox for years.

Also found out the dimensions for the RT on/off. Most likely gotta get a 740 pin (728 might work too it depends on the individual marker) to run it in a classic valve.

I think I'll keep it single trigger to keep the rate of fire at levels that don't frost the marker. After all it's only for the odd outlaw game with people shooting spyders and tippys in the backwoods.

I was looking into a Helios body for 85 + feedneck and detent separate. ULE bodies were 135 to 150. Then someone offered me a ULE bodied classic for $100 and I couldn't pass it up.

So uhh... Now I have two mags. That was unexpected...


Still never did figure out what the 6-10" barrel trend was. Nostalgia for when they came stock with barrels that length?

Idk

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Old 06-20-2016, 12:10 PM #7
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I would go with a .740-.745 pin.
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Old 06-20-2016, 12:14 PM #8
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I think the classic mag was limited to 13bps, because of recharge. I'll have to look.
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that would be incorrect. people have done videos where classic valves have been shot using hyperframes at 20 bps with out shootdown.
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Old 10-17-2016, 09:22 PM #10
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Still never did figure out what the 6-10" barrel trend was. Nostalgia for when they came stock with barrels that length?

Idk
Because why make it longer? When you're playing tournaments in the woods and hard surface "concept" or hyperball fields, short overall length is the way to go.
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