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Old 12-06-2007, 08:19 PM #22
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There is nothing wrong with drugs or premarital sex.
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Old 12-06-2007, 08:28 PM #23
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rap music is just a way to express yourself. i dont think its a negative effect on society. from age 14 to 17 i could relate to it, it didnt cause me to do stuff i have done. it was fun to hear someone talking about it. there has always been sex before marrige and drugs its nothing new but now people are saying it and dont give a ****. If you dont like it dont listen to it .
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Old 12-06-2007, 08:33 PM #24
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Maybe they should stop being retards and go get an education then. Just because someone lives in a bad area does not mean they are programmed to be the same. Anyone can get out of a bad area and go to school, or get a good job if they want. Most people are too ****ing lazy to do this however.
Ooh, good point. Schools that get fractions of the amount of money of other schools, areas that get fractions of public funding towards things like police and health services, areas where the homeless and poor are crammed into and tucked away, areas that are exploited and ignored because they've been conditioned to not expect anything from everyone, those areas, that are simply filled with beacons of hope, so supported by society, yet unfortunately, they're populated with people that are "too ****ing lazy" to "go get an education". When you've been born there, with nothing and nobody, you can prove how easy it is. And don't try to bring up the trite examples of occasional people making it out, because they occupy a margin so small that it is not applicable as an example of perseverence, merely an example of luck.

While it makes you feel better by telling yourself all this, it will never be true.
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Old 12-06-2007, 08:33 PM #25
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Anything that glorifies drugs, gangs, guns, fighting, premarital sex, can't be good . I'm not saying that all rap is like that, but in general it's not helping our cultural advancement.
I can guarantee that 99% of people in the US are doing things that support the worsening of our "cultural advancement" in some way or another. The path it is on cannot be changed.
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Old 12-06-2007, 08:42 PM #26
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I'm not saying they're not in our societies. I'm talking about populace. I doubt that 70% of people in this country commit violent crimes or sling crack...... And if you're going to claim 100%'s here, you can't say certain cities don't count. That's retarded in and of itself.
The rap songs are about pre-existent culture. People sold drugs and killed people in the inner city long before music like that came out. Opera didn't make mafiosos ruthless killers, and neither does violent rap music. It may glorify it, but nobody kills another person because 50 told them to.

You listen to death metal, and people that listen to Cannibal Corpse or whatever don't go around raping dead children.
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Old 12-06-2007, 08:52 PM #27
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There is nothing wrong with drugs or premarital sex.
I've a feeling your mine will change when you have kids.
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Old 12-06-2007, 08:55 PM #28
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Old 12-06-2007, 10:27 PM #29
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Alright, I was wrong about what Kanye said, but that just proves the point I was trying to make in the first place: He only rapped about what was in his society.
Did you not read my previous post? He did NOT grow up in the ghetto. His mom had a PhD. I don't know about you, but I don't see many gang-banger drug dealing doctors living in the ghetto.

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The rap songs are about pre-existent culture. People sold drugs and killed people in the inner city long before music like that came out. Opera didn't make mafiosos ruthless killers, and neither does violent rap music. It may glorify it, but nobody kills another person because 50 told them to.

You listen to death metal, and people that listen to Cannibal Corpse or whatever don't go around raping dead children.
I don't listen to cannibal corpse, so
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Old 12-07-2007, 12:45 AM #30
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Old 12-07-2007, 07:04 AM #31
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Alright, I was wrong about what Kanye said, but that just proves the point I was trying to make in the first place: He only rapped about what was in his society.
This was taken directly from wikipedia:

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Kanye's late mother, Dr. Donda West, worked as the Chair of the English Department at Chicago State University before retiring to serve as Kanye's manager. He was later raised in an upper middle class background, attending Polaris High School
How often do you see muggings and crack heads on street corners in an upper middle class area? And by the way: upper middle class means rich. Everyone knows no one claims to be rich, they're all this "upper middle class."
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Old 12-07-2007, 10:49 AM #32
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Did you not read my previous post? He did NOT grow up in the ghetto. His mom had a PhD. I don't know about you, but I don't see many gang-banger drug dealing doctors living in the ghetto.
yeah so
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Old 12-07-2007, 11:37 AM #33
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yeah so
So he obviously wasn't singing about the culture and society he grew up in.
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Old 12-07-2007, 03:30 PM #34
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Did you not read my previous post? He did NOT grow up in the ghetto. His mom had a PhD. I don't know about you, but I don't see many gang-banger drug dealing doctors living in the ghetto.
But ghettos aren't the only place with drugs or sex... He rapped about the society he was in. Jesus, you're retarded. Get the stereotypes out of your head.
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