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Old 01-06-2008, 02:18 PM #232
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wow, nit picking. read the second post. there a few guns than can shoot a little over 30, so I forgot to add borgs to my list. my point was who can shoot that fast even remotely legally? Eric? I didnt think so. how about you Bayne? can you do it? I know for a fact that Ian cant do it. I feel good when I break 20, and I cant do it consistently, and my gun is probably bouncing when I do pull it off. jesus people, learn some facts here. fact is a few, very few guns can break 30. those that can wont do it in a consistent manner (with any kind of accuracy), nor will they consistently shoot at 30 bps or above. try goldwaving your borg on uncapped full auto Eric, you will see what I mean.
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Old 01-06-2008, 02:20 PM #233
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wow, nit picking. read the second post. there a few guns than can shoot a little over 30, so I forgot to add borgs to my list. my point was who can shoot that fast even remotely legally? Eric? I didnt think so. how about you Bayne? can you do it? I know for a fact that Ian cant do it. I feel good when I break 20, and I cant do it consistently, and my gun is probably bouncing when I do pull it off. jesus people, learn some facts here. fact is a few, very few guns can break 30. those that can wont do it in a consistent manner (with any kind of accuracy), nor will they consistently shoot at 30 bps or above. try goldwaving your borg on uncapped full auto Eric, you will see what I mean.
ian is lucky if he breaks 10
me on the other hand can do 40 np
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Old 01-06-2008, 02:55 PM #234
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ian is lucky if he breaks 10
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Old 01-06-2008, 03:36 PM #235
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Old 01-06-2008, 03:37 PM #236
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orracle 52 cps is fastest ive heard i think it did like 34 w/ paint
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Old 01-06-2008, 03:42 PM #237
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cps doesnt count. totally worthless. at 52 cps, the bolt doesnt even open or close all the way, and the valve isnt opening at all. at 34 bps with an autococker design, the vlocity of paint coming out the barrel will be fluctuating at something on the order of +/-50 fps. but truth of the matter is, that max rof is totally worthless anyways. you cant get even close to that on semi auto, no-one can. and with psp, even before they changed the cap, it was still only 15... so what is the point of 30+ bps? its just a penis measuring contest. and thats a contest I am prepared to not win.
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Old 01-06-2008, 03:47 PM #238
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cps doesnt count. totally worthless. at 52 cps, the bolt doesnt even open or close all the way, and the valve isnt opening at all. at 34 bps with an autococker design, the vlocity of paint coming out the barrel will be fluctuating at something on the order of +/-50 fps. but truth of the matter is, that max rof is totally worthless anyways. you cant get even close to that on semi auto, no-one can. and with psp, even before they changed the cap, it was still only 15... so what is the point of 30+ bps? its just a penis measuring contest. and thats a contest I am prepared to not win.
it would be a dick measureing contest ryan
get it right
anyways im going to pick up that new pb game if i get a chance to come over today
i have work tonight and a staff meeting at 5 so im guessing i might not cause it's almost 1 anyways and i have to work on a project
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Old 01-06-2008, 03:58 PM #239
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Old 01-06-2008, 04:04 PM #240
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I saw that, and decided to get the Bloodline Pear instead. I dont care for the look that one has.
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Old 01-06-2008, 04:09 PM #241
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9mms? og , but your choice
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Old 01-06-2008, 05:20 PM #242
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we all cant be agg like ian
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Old 01-06-2008, 05:22 PM #243
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Old 01-07-2008, 12:49 AM #244
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Old 01-07-2008, 02:25 AM #245
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Hell, show me a person who can shoot 25 legally.

zach long, bob longs song pulled a 33 with the first of the marq's
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Old 01-07-2008, 02:27 AM #246
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thats pretty old news ian...

OG and AGG are over-rated, skilled is where its at.
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Old 01-07-2008, 02:34 AM #247
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yeah, an ego will do 30, a mag might if the stars aligned, I know vikings, and some angels will. but they all limit out withing a few bps of 30. show me a gun proven to shoot more than that. More than that, show me a person who can shoot that fast legally. Hell, show me a person who can shoot 25 legally.
Ego 7s can do 50 BPS out of the fox with a proper air system.

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Old 01-07-2008, 09:50 AM #248
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zach long, bob longs song pulled a 33 with the first of the marq's
and that was with no bounce, or any electronic assistance? right....

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Ego 7s can do 50 BPS out of the fox with a proper air system.
and this was proven? how? what hopper will really feed more than 30-35 max? dont even tell me the torque will, as you were just stating that its a 50 bps ball crusher. remember, this isnt cps Bayne, its BPS.
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Old 01-07-2008, 01:50 PM #249
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I guess, but all those things arent really needed, and the milling is incredible distasteful to me. Mind you, I thought it was gorgeous when I first saw it, but that was with the expectancy of it dropping 3 oz from the proteges. When I heard it only lost half an ounce, my heart dropped.
Okay so maybe Im beating a dead horse here, but your arguments are pretty rediculous.

Your upset over a .5 oz differnce that was suposed to be 3 oz? The weight differnce doesnt mean anything. The stock protege and vice are already milled down to the bone and super light. Unless they plan to fill the grip frame with helium I dont see what is the point or how they would make it lighter.

You put your complaints as the weight (2.5 oz). but the milling is cosmetic not weight.

And you pass off the Tadao board, a lever lock feedneck, and pillow bolt as "not really needed"

Besides a barrel those are probably the most upgraded parts on any gun. Think about an ion, first things kids do is buy a new board, new feedneck and new bolt/sleeve set up (besides trigger/on-off and barrel, which the vice doesnt need upgraded).

I'm just saying that its cool if its not for you, but your reasons are rediculous. Rather than try to make up silly reasons as to why it isnt for you, just be like " it looks like poo, id rather own a shocker/droid/whatever"
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Okay so maybe Im beating a dead horse here, but your arguments are pretty rediculous.

Your upset over a .5 oz differnce that was suposed to be 3 oz? The weight differnce doesnt mean anything. The stock protege and vice are already milled down to the bone and super light. Unless they plan to fill the grip frame with helium I dont see what is the point or how they would make it lighter.

You put your complaints as the weight (2.5 oz). but the milling is cosmetic not weight.

And you pass off the Tadao board, a lever lock feedneck, and pillow bolt as "not really needed"

Besides a barrel those are probably the most upgraded parts on any gun. Think about an ion, first things kids do is buy a new board, new feedneck and new bolt/sleeve set up (besides trigger/on-off and barrel, which the vice doesnt need upgraded).

I'm just saying that its cool if its not for you, but your reasons are rediculous. Rather than try to make up silly reasons as to why it isnt for you, just be like " it looks like poo, id rather own a shocker/droid/whatever"
i want a droid but then again i also want a vice
totally worth it imo since it already has a tadao board and all the other goodies you mentioned
i dont like buying a high end gun that you have to upgrade to get to perform to your standards
if i wanted to buy upgrade for my gun i'd buy a ****ing ion
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Old 01-07-2008, 04:18 PM #251
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nothing is wrong with a ion as long as its yellow and has tank shooting it.
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nothing is wrong with a ion as long as its yellow and has tank shooting it.
never said there was anything wrong with an ion, they just usually needed to be upgraded if you want them to shoot nice and smoothly and fast
the ion is a low end gun so of course you have to expect to upgrade it if you want it so shoot realy well
if you dont upgrade it thats fine it'll just shoot not the greatest
on the other hand when im buying a high end marker, i dont want to be spending a bunch of money on upgrading **** on it because the stock **** sux(NXT *cough cough*)
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