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Old 11-13-2007, 12:40 PM #85
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:04 PM #86
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I will start off with the positives of the event for me. 6 bucks for pizza and breakfast was awsome!!! The tournament ran super fast and smooth. I think we got done 2 1/2 hours ahead of time. Stinger facility is the best indoor field I ever seen. I like the projector for scores, and we always knew when we were up. I also got the watch the Wisconsin vs. Mich. game. Check in for the tournament was fast and easy.

The only problems we had was some reffing issues.
1. The boundaries were not lined up at all.
2. What is an obvious hit needs to be clarified, or the refs need to call people out when the player can't see or feel the hit. (like tip of a visor)
3. Like someone said before refs were checking the wrong side of players (like on snake side)
4. Cheering when the game is still going on
5. What counts as a hit? dime, quarter, has to have impact point or no impact point? Because I got called out for splatter... :/

-Thank you for volunteering, and listening. Our team appreciated all the people who could make this happen.
(I think all the childish comments with simmer down because people can just get over heated, and do not know what they are saying...including me)
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:12 PM #87
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5. What counts as a hit? dime, quarter, has to have impact point or no impact point? Because I got called out for splatter... :/
Anything that breaks on you is a hit. This dime/quarter theory is false.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:35 PM #88
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you damn psp refs and your if i saw it break it doesnt matter if theres nothing on you rules.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:36 PM #89
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4. Cheering when the game is still going on
As long as they aren't coaching I see no problem with people cheering from the sidelines.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:51 PM #90
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1. The boundaries were not lined up at all.
2. What is an obvious hit needs to be clarified, or the refs need to call people out when the player can't see or feel the hit. (like tip of a visor)
3. Like someone said before refs were checking the wrong side of players (like on snake side)
4. Cheering when the game is still going on
5. What counts as a hit? dime, quarter, has to have impact point or no impact point? Because I got called out for splatter... :/
If boundaries are not lined up properly then some sort of agreement needs to be established in the captains meeting so that every team understands clearly what is out of bounds.

An obvious hit is anything that a ref feels the player can hear, feel, or verify visually. So an obvious hit is up to the refs discretion in most cases. There generally is places that most refs consider obvious, then again there are many vague places as well.

Checking the wrong side is just up to the refs. I got nothing on that. However when I check a player you go first for the incoming paint side then check everything based on player position and amount of time I can check without interfering with play.

Cheering from the dead box is an absolute NO. You may think you may not be changing the outcome of the game but even inflections can change results. I know that better refs will allow chatter from the box at whispers as they can watch and monitor the box but generally speaking ultimate say no talking just for clarification purposes.

A hit is defined as anything a ref sees breaking on a player regardless of size of mark, or any hit the ref can be certain with minimal doubt broke on a player.
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:05 PM #91
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Cheering from the dead box is an absolute NO. You may think you may not be changing the outcome of the game but even inflections can change results. I know that better refs will allow chatter from the box at whispers as they can watch and monitor the box but generally speaking ultimate say no talking just for clarification purposes.
I thought he meant cheering from the sidelines from spectators, but yeah dead players don't talk.
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:09 PM #92
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Well I may have read that wrong, if that be the case, its very hard for any field refs to monitor and stop spectator cheering especially with that many teams. Coaching obviously not; communicating with the players on the field is illegal however an on field ref cannot stop this. Usually a ref outside the field would have to monitor and access penalties for this particular behavior.
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:11 PM #93
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One way to help all the confusion on rules is to have a real captains meeting instead of telling all the teams that we are trying to run the event ahead of schedule over and over again.
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:16 PM #94
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Where do you guys want to get your refs from?
I honestly think that we should get our refs from local Xball teams. I know someone mentioned this already before but I'm going to bring it up again. There are a bunch of local Xball teams that im sure would jump at the chance of reffing an ncpa event for a day and adding $2000 to their team account. I dont think we would have any problem finding a team to do this. These people play nationally at the D3 and D2 level so im sure that they all know the rules and know what to watch for and how to check players. I think a local team would be the best fit and should be something that we look into for future events.....

On a side note, i thought the refs did a fine job last weekend. I know theres a lot of people crying about it on here now, but i thought they were good. However, they were understaffed for a 14 hour event and honestly the young kid was a joke. But overall i thought they were solid all day and did a good job..... ok im done now
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:18 PM #95
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Has the January 26th date been confirmed with Air Assault for event #4?
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:22 PM #96
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i would also like to know this.
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4. Cheering when the game is still going on

Wait untill the flag is hung until you cheer that is all.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:53 PM #98
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If we use the same locations next year as we have this year I think we should have Nhance, or another crew (MWPPA refs preferably) ref the APPG and Air Assault events and at Stinger we should get the Stinger refs. This would keep costs for refs down because we wouldn't need to pay for refs to drive 5-6 hours to events or to stay in hotels.

As for the upcoming Air Assault event we really should confirm a date. Be aware though that Sup Air Bowl might be that weekend, if it is going to happen at all.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:18 PM #99
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i know for a fact that planet extremes x-ball team would jump at the chance to ref our events. if need be i can try to arrange to get them to ref the next stinger tourny.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:35 PM #100
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someone just pointed this out tonight at our meeting and does ISU's have this?

our trophy says Stringer instead of Stinger(/s) on it


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Old 11-13-2007, 09:45 PM #101
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omg r u reetarded. i know ur joking.........its definatly stinger with no s on the end
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:48 PM #102
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heh? what about stingers?
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:52 PM #103
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The Janurary date of the 26th is about 80% confirmed. I talked it over with Gary from air assualt and he just wanted an e-mail with more information. Joe is going to e-mail him with that info and everything should be cool. When we know we will keep it to ourselves for 3 weeks then let everyone else know.
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Old 11-13-2007, 10:16 PM #104
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Some pics of SMU. I'm just gonna post the links. The pics would screw up the thread due to their size if i posted them in the thread.

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