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Old 11-08-2007, 02:47 PM #1
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Proto SLG Information thread




http://protoslg.info/

HOW MUCH:
The SLG Introduction price retails for $250.
The SLG has dropped it's price to $199.


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Looks like the cat is out of the bag.

The SLG will be a great first gun for new players and a great backup gun for experienced players.

The SLG is priced below the PMR at $250.

The marker operates using a spool valve and mechanical solenoid (not a solenoid valve) and a sear. The design is not like a matrix or anything else on the market. There are 3 dynamic o-rings and two parts to the bolt kit: bolt and backcap. The marker is more efficient than any of our other guns but is also a bit louder and has a bit more kick.

The SLG has the Hyper3. No LPR. Wired eyes.

The gripframe is a polymer but is much, much stronger than the PMR gripframe. We learned from our mistakes and I would be very surprised if one ever breaks.

We are planning on making a UL frame for the SLG.

The SLG is a solid marker and we hope you guys like it.
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BOLT Operation:

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An explanation of the operation:

There are two forces on the bolt. A constant rearward force and variable forward force from the dump chamber. At rest, the chamber is full and the bolt wants to go forward. The sear is dropped; bolt goes forward. It continues to go forward until the valve opens to shoot the ball. When the valve opens, the chamber starts to empty and the forward force decreases. It decreases enough so that the constant rearward force is now larger than the forward force. The net force is now reward and the bolt returns. When the bolt is rearward, the chamber fills and the bolt wants to go forward again. The sear goes up and holds the bolt for the next shot.

As said, the button on the back simply vents the chamber to atmosphere, reducing forward force so that bolt returns rearward.
courtesy of MIRODASC


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MANUAL:

SLG Manual: download

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SLG Upgrades thread:
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2495317

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Proto SLG Review threads
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2415987
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...1#post41179121

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SLG Video Review!
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2423142
Direct link:
http://link.brightcove.com/services/...ctid1283222219

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What is the difference between the Hyper2 and Hyper3
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The diameter has been decreased and the spring stack has been optimized for the pressure range. The changes are not drastic, but why should they be when the hyper2 already works very well.
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VIDEOS
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Sup ya;ll!!

I think this is the post you all have been waiting for!!

Pictures of Proto SLG, Inside and Out!

And i also just finished the almost 4 minute video of me taking it apart and showing it off!

Taking apart the SLG

Let me know and keep in mind on the Vid, i made it with the camera propped up on a chair and my roommate is playing wow in the background! Good times! ENjoy!
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I have posted recently two videos of my slg...One with paint, one without...

Both are good quality and the second vid is the SLG on nxl maxed bps w/eyes...

Pretty sweet little gun, Great backup!!

Enjoy the vids!!


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I know the grip frame is Polymer, but is the Backcap the same as the stock PMR?

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Backcap is aluminum, not composite.
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Can you use Co2 on a SLG? NO you can't
Discussion thread: http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2429180

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SLG gotchas (Information)
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2425577

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Quote:
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SLG Medium parts kit contents:

10 x 005
05 x 007
10 x 011
10 x 012
10 x 013
10 x 014
05 x 015
10 bolt bumpers
10 x 016
05 x 020
3 button sets
2 sear springs
6 eye cover screws
5 grip frame screws
5 grip panel screws
6 ball detents (rubber)
2 trigger springs
1 ring (replaceable bolt part)
1 sear
1 battery connector
1 microswitch
1 eye set

I just went left to right and top to bottom reading the compartments but im sure you can figure out whats what, if not just ask.

Pro
Plenty of o-rings
Nice having parts that wear over time (bolt bumper / sear / ring)
all the wiring is handy to have

con
Ball detents are older rubber style
1 set of eyes as opposed to 2 (like my m8 kit)
The microswitch / springs are stock style and are icky.

Im very glad I bought this kit, makes me feel extra safe at a field in case they don't have a part I need. I snagged a spare set of spring detents from my m8 kit so that rounded out well.

Hope this helps, post here if you have any questions.

J
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:47 PM #2
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Hope this helps reduce some of the SLG threads we have been getting lately.
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Another fine thread. Let's hope people actually read this now.
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:00 PM #6
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Im getting a SLG tommorrow, so i will be able to help people with questions.
Good thread, should be stickied
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Good stuff as usual erayser
Is there any word on getting an SLG subforum?
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edit: and i vote for a sticky
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Old 11-08-2007, 10:36 PM #11
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A post I made elsewhere regarding the Hyper3 reg-

First off the Hyper3 reg has what looks like 9/16"-16 threads on it, so I guess this is the jump into getting away from the old "ASA" as a foregrip mount.
They downsized form a 0.993" to a 0.745" reg piston plunger, and use 12 15mm OD x 0.6mm thick Belleville springs instead of the 9 18mm OD x 1mm thick stack.
The piston surface is almost 1/2 of what it used to be... to me, that is only 1/2 the accuracy of detecting output air pressure. I could see if the spring stack were 2x the travel, but it is only 0.5mm longer overall travel. Makes me wonder about the "more consistent" claim.

I just looked up the specs on the springs used, and it looks like the previous Hyper regs were over-sprung. They would reach the spring stack's load force at 320psi. The Hyper3 is sprung to max right around 200psi, so that is where any real performance increases might result from.

One way to find out... put them on a gun, hook up the pressure monitors, and let it rip!

According to Dye (http://www.dyeprecision.com/HardParts/hyper3.html), it says "Features standard threads to fit most markers", which I guess is a typo left over from the text they took it from, because all of the regs pictured on that page have the same smaller size threads (relative to the reg body) as the one I have here. Two tops would be a good idea.. easier for the transition phase at least.
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Got mine tonight, it is really nice right now, however my Velocity JR. wont fit in stock feedneck, can anyone help me?
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Got mine tonight, it is really nice right now, however my Velocity JR. wont fit in stock feedneck, can anyone help me?

You can either sand the hopper neck or buy a clamping feedneck (Go with the feed neck )

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What's the BPS on the SLG? I'm new to the Dye/proto world...I'm moving up from My Spyder
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What's the BPS on the SLG? I'm new to the Dye/proto world...I'm moving up from My Spyder
30bps

BTW DO NOT TAKE THE ORINGS OUT OF THE FEEDNECK THEY ARE A B WORD TO PUT BACK IN
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Shot my SLG for the first time today, and i loved it.
Works great, and i suggest it to anyone.
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