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Old 10-23-2007, 01:49 AM #1
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Exclamation Trilogy pump FAQ

After much discussion on "can a trilogy..." ive decided to make this, myself being a Trilogy Pump owner Not too sure if its sticky worthy but i'll definitely sig it. Maybe you guys can link em to this whenever the question comes up. PM me if you've got a trilogy pump kit, and which one. PM Me with suggestions for this so i can add them. I'll update this with new info when I can.

1) Can I make my Trilogy into a pump??
A) Yes you can. ALL Trilogies can be made into pumps. The "Tactical trilogy" has a removable shroud. Take off the shroud and its the same process for all Trilogies.

2) where Can I buy a pump kit for my Trilogy??
A) www.pmpind.com (~$40.00)
www.teamhooptie.com (~$30.00) (some modification needed)
www.wevopaintball.com (~$40.00)
http://www.paintball-online.com/pain...p?number=CKWPK (this site had a few left when I updated, so check it out! Choose trilogy from the little box.)

3)How about some damn reviews for this thing??
A)
Hooptie Pump kit (Thanks to Pumpenstein )
PMP Pump kit (Thanks to Pumpenstein )

4) Dude, im too cheap to buy one, can i make my own??
A) Yes you can
MAKE YOUR OWN TRILOGY PUMP KIT!!

5)How do I install the pump kit?
A)Check out this guide made by TF
How To install trilogy pump kit!
B)Get the PDF instructions for the PMP pump kit. Its the same process for all kits. (with exception of hooptie where you have to mod the gun a bit)
Its in PDF format so beware of crash!!
>>INSTALL GUIDE<<

6) Is the Trilogy a good gun?
A) This is all preference. Basic facts about the Trilogy:
-Least expensive autococker
-Same cocker threaded barrels
-Same quality (IMO) as other cockers
-Doesnt have a "front block"
-Integrated 3-way
-integrated feedneck. (a PBN member says the SF has a removable feedneck, so i may be wrong!! http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...5#post46630675 )
-all come in hinge trigger (Pro has a 2 finger trigger and Comp & Sport have "1.5" finger triggers.. bigger than 1, less than 2)
-Accept all cocker grips

They are cheap and work well just as any other pump gun. Some people have complaints about the wobble of the grip and guide rod. It does wobble a bit, but not to the point where you would be worried about breaking it. the same amount you would get from other single rod pump kits for other cockers. (minus CCM's design )

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Old 10-23-2007, 01:54 AM #2
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Old 10-23-2007, 11:20 AM #3
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the wobble of a PMP kit isn't any more than any other single rod style kit on any other gun.
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Old 10-30-2007, 01:03 AM #4
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whenever I pump my trilogy pump, if I leave my hand on the pump it sounds different than if I take my hand off. Is this normal? should I worry about it or does it not affect it enough to matter?
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Old 10-30-2007, 01:13 AM #5
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whenever I pump my trilogy pump, if I leave my hand on the pump it sounds different than if I take my hand off. Is this normal? should I worry about it or does it not affect it enough to matter?
No worries. When you hold the grip you keep the bolt from moving back when the valve is opened and air rushes to propels the ball. You will likely find much better consistency if you hold the pump arm forward while shooting.
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:33 AM #6
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Do Trilogys have threaded feednecks?

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Old 10-30-2007, 12:34 PM #7
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Do Trilogys have threaded feednecks?

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Nope, all integrated
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Old 12-04-2007, 12:17 PM #8
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Nope, all integrated
is there any tutorials for changing that or maybe putting a stock class feed on a trilogy or other cocker?
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Old 12-04-2007, 12:42 PM #9
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is there any tutorials for changing that or maybe putting a stock class feed on a trilogy or other cocker?
Im sure they exist, it would be the same thing for just about any other cocker that you want to change to SC. You would just chop off the feedneck, tap a hole for a phantom sc feed and bolt it on
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...045&highlight=

Thats a nice, clean job there.
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Old 12-04-2007, 12:49 PM #10
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NF, ya beat me to it
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Old 12-04-2007, 01:13 PM #11
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hah

im really considering doing this to my trilogy pro. The only problem is that the feedneck is kinda weird. where the neck meet the body its kinda like a mountain, it goes up and then comes the feedneck. I'd have the screw in mid air, and unstable i would think.

Plus its my OC marker... I cant hurt it
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:48 PM #12
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I found a flaw in your basic facts on the trilogies.
Only the trilogy pro comes with a 2 finger trigger. The others have a 1.5 trigger frame. Just thought I'd toss that out there.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:50 PM #13
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I found a flaw in your basic facts on the trilogies.
Only the trilogy pro comes with a 2 finger trigger. The others have a 1.5 trigger frame. Just thought I'd toss that out there.
how the heck are you suppose to fit 1.5 fingers into the trigger??



I'll mod it a bit
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:52 PM #14
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Not sure, but thats how the come.
Well mech cockers you dont really need 2 fingers. Alot of people I know actually use 1 finger to shoot faster. Preference I guess.
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:30 PM #15
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Well I turned a trilogy into a pump. Being new at this and not much of a tinkerer it was kinda tough especially since I had a hoptite kit. Total spend for the Trilogy and pump kit was $100 so not that bad.

Your threads Nintendofreak helped alot. Thank you.

I think this is a start of me converting more cockers into pump and promoting this style of play out here. This weekend will be the first time I get to try out this marker in addition to an 03 Budd Orr I bought for only $130 bucks which was a sweet deal.
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Old 12-06-2007, 05:26 PM #16
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I'm not as educated about pb markers as I could be; can you run an air setup like a VSC phantom on a trilogy sniper? Not the 12g necessarily, but with a small bottle.

And besides prestige, or "it" factor, what do you give up by choosing a converted cocker over a phantom? I think accuracy, probably, but how much and couldn't you rectify that fairly cheaply in comparison?

Looking forward to being "that guy with the pump", just not sure which one it'll be yet...
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Old 12-06-2007, 05:33 PM #17
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I'm not as educated about pb markers as I could be; can you run an air setup like a VSC phantom on a trilogy sniper? Not the 12g necessarily, but with a small bottle.

And besides prestige, or "it" factor, what do you give up by choosing a converted cocker over a phantom? I think accuracy, probably, but how much and couldn't you rectify that fairly cheaply in comparison?

Looking forward to being "that guy with the pump", just not sure which one it'll be yet...
You can use a vertical CO2 tank on a Trilogy, but it would have to be the "Sport " Version of the Trilogy. You see the Sport has a valve that is made to run on the direct pressure of the tank (800 psi ish), so removing the front grip wouldnt be a problem

However, when you do this to a Pro or Competition, you have to switch out the internals on it. The internals are made for lower pressure, hence having the regulator. (Perhaps this is not a option, it would take some tinkering and seeing that your somewhat new to this, I would hold off till you get some more confidence)

This does not go to say that you cant put the CO2 tank on it, you can, simply screw it into the asa (where the tank normally goes) and there you have it, any paintball CO2 tank will work, regardless of size.

Phantoms and "snipers" (autococker based guns) are typically used for different ways of play. Check out the link "pump markers and you.." link in my sig, it WILL help explain what you should look forward to in a pump gun.
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Old 12-06-2007, 05:54 PM #18
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Well I have a hollowed out torp, no internals so acts as a gas through...it shouldnt have an affect correct? I was going to try it out but my co2 pin or the ndz pin was too short to reach the CO2 so i couldnt try it out.

Would this cause a problem or no?
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Old 12-06-2007, 07:15 PM #19
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Old 12-06-2007, 08:10 PM #20
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Well I have a hollowed out torp, no internals so acts as a gas through...it shouldnt have an affect correct? I was going to try it out but my co2 pin or the ndz pin was too short to reach the CO2 so i couldnt try it out.

Would this cause a problem or no?
It shouldn't cause any problems. What Trilogy do you have?

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Old 12-06-2007, 09:06 PM #21
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I have the trilogy pro
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