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Old 10-16-2007, 10:40 PM #736
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guys guys guys!

the gardners made the HUGE mistake of showing face in a public forum, ready to be openly mocked by anyone who knows enough to! theres just years and years of BS we can pile on them, and when they fail to respond ... well, then they have responded ...

time for the small bickering to stop, and time to make the gardners regret ever having showed face in there defense on PBN. they should have left there little minons to call us all bandwagoning SP haters, at least then Smart Parts can remain faceless durring the discussion.

c'mon people - let the public shaming continue!

still, above all else Smart Parts has tried to pull, i still get a chuckle about the magic box for automags ... nothing is a better example of total SP Bull **** than that! its just a box with two holes drilled in it!
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:42 PM #737
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Look guys, it is not so simple.
Mr. Gardner. I have another question for you.

How was that Smart Parts Magic Box ever supposed to work?




http://www.tyger.us/paintball/oldschool/sp/

How did it "reduce drag" in the barrel, for example? Can you send me a link to some test results?

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Old 10-16-2007, 10:45 PM #738
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When trying to "own" someone (as you kids call it), it is imperative to actually be correct on the point you're making. By perpetrating the same mistake that your opponent made, it makes you look dumb.

Also, there is nothing humorous about the sad state of education in the U.S.
And? I am far from dumb. I am sorry if I am not perfect.
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:45 PM #739
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Right.....got him on that point.

Moron.
Do you have something constructive to add?

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Old 10-16-2007, 10:47 PM #740
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I didn't feel like reading his entire long winded post....but was he trying to say SP was a "family" business w/caring people w/values?

If so...then why did you put aka out of business? That was a Family business...the only reason you sued them was because at the time no one wanted to use your gay *** impulse...

Smart parts FTL


oh...and you guys are gay for even trade marking FTW...
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Mr. Gardner. I have another question for you.

How was that Smart Parts Magic Box ever supposed to work?


http://www.tyger.us/paintball/oldschool/sp/

How did it "reduce drag" in the barrel, for example? Can you send me a link to some test results?
lol.
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:51 PM #742
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The magic box is a perfect example of the dilemma I currently face. The magic box increased the size of the air chamber and lowered the operating pressure of the Automag. A generally excepted principal in today’s quality markers, low operating pressure equals better accuracy. A new concept at the time, and obviously not exactly accepted yet thousands of people purchased the magic box. I wonder why? Maybe it worked?
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:52 PM #743
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I wish I had one of those magic boxes, the logic is simply flawless, after all they are magic.
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yet thousands of people purchased the magic box. I wonder why?
Me to.
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The magic box is a perfect example of the dilemma I currently face. The magic box increased the size of the air chamber and lowered the operating pressure of the Automag. A generally excepted principal in today’s quality markers, low operating pressure equals better accuracy. A new concept at the time, and obviously not exactly accepted yet thousands of people purchase the magic box. I wonder why? Maybe it worked?
But can you provide solid evidence that it did work? For example, perhaps you have a video of a mag not only running LP with the magic box, but running exceptionally well, and that video is inside the SP vault somewhere that you can upload to youtube?
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:54 PM #746
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still, above all else Smart Parts has tried to pull, i still get a chuckle about the magic box for automags ... nothing is a better example of total SP Bull **** than that! its just a box with two holes drilled in it!
Actually, it did have a function. If you were using CO2 and kept the barrel down (or maybe it was up) just before going to the chrono station, you could chrono within the field limits. However, playing with the marker in a normal orientation would allow the liquid CO2 in the Magic Box into the reg, resulting in higher FPS when it gasified. What was it the old-timers said? Something like, "by cheaters for cheaters". Some older guys can give me the correct appellation.

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But can you provide solid evidence that it did work? For example, perhaps you have a video of a mag not only running LP with the magic box, but running exceptionally well, and that video is inside the SP vault somewhere that you can upload to youtube?
With or without a Magic Box, the regulator on an Automag can't operate on LP. It's just not going to happen.

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Old 10-16-2007, 10:55 PM #747
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AkA had every opportunity to license, we did not put them out of business. The put themselves out of business.
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:56 PM #748
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Actually, it did have a function. If you were using CO2 and kept the barrel down (or maybe it was up) just before going to the chrono station, you could chrono within the field limits. However, playing with the marker in a normal orientation would allow the liquid CO2 in the Magic Box into the reg, resulting in higher FPS when it gasified. What was it the old-timers said? Something like, "by cheaters for cheaters".

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but it still doesn't explain my question on how it can lower drag....
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A new concept at the time, and obviously not exactly accepted yet thousands of people purchased the magic box. I wonder why? Maybe it worked?
Meh, thousands of people purchased the Corvair, the 1977 Ford Pinto, the Pet Rock, and the Edsel. All notorious failures.
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AkA had every opportunity to license, we did not put them out of business. The put themselves out of business.
Oh boy, I'm quoting this before you edit it.
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Meh, thousands of people purchased the Corvair, the 1977 Ford Pinto, the Pet Rock, and the Edsel. All notorious failures.
So you think the ability to sell thousands if not millions of people a rock, is a failure.

This is why trying to explain business to the people on pbnation is futile...
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The publicly traded company is generally cold and uncaring as well as motivated by profits and their board of directors is more concerned about filing the proper paperwork with the SEC than determining the future of the business. The family business, on the other hand, makes decisions that make sense for the future of the business and its employees. Approximately fifty percent of the U.S. GDP is generated by these businesses, and most of these businesses are based on a strong set of values. Smart Parts sustainable advantage over the competition is good people; this may be the only sustainable advantage that exists in business. Good people do not follow leaders without values and do not follow the people you characterize in your posts.
So I guess that makes you the "cold and uncaring" publicly traded company, and not the one with good people.
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:01 PM #753
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Obviously, you do not know how a regulator works. Automags that went liquid shot hot with or without a magic box, and the added area of the magic box did not add to the problem in fact the lower operating pressure reduced the problem. You know the two major factors affecting the CO2 state change Pressure and Temperature.
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microsoft atleast doesnt hurt the computer industry. microsoft isnt stealing other companies' products and putting out other companies (as far as i know). and guess what. microsoft actually invents their own products!
microsoft wouldn't be where they are today if they hadn't stolen dos and windows 95
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Oh boy, I'm quoting this before you edit it.
Actually, in the interest of full disclosure, SP did offer to license their (edited to be kind) electro patent to AKA. However, I've asked multiple times and no one from SP will confirm the licensing fee was reasonable by disclosing how much was asked.

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So you think the ability to sell thousands if not millions of people a rock, is a failure.

This is why trying to explain business to the people on pbnation is futile...
The product is, the marketing is not.
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