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Old 03-20-2015, 01:45 PM #1
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Two Fat Guy's V3 Ion Bolt has been released!

Two Fat Guy's V3 Ion Bolt.
2x Complete Rebuild Kit included.
~40 FPS increase over our V2. [Our V2 was 30-40 FPS+ over stock]
This is the same bolt we use in our Mechanical Ion Mod kits.
-- These currently only work for CLASSIC Ions as the backstop is different for GOG/Vibe/XE markers.



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Old 03-20-2015, 04:59 PM #2
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Is this strictly an efficiency gain or does it provide additional functionality, such as anti-chop? How does it stack up against the L7 or Hollowpoint bolt?
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Old 03-20-2015, 05:27 PM #3
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It looks nice Is it a drop in, or are there any mods needed?
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Old 03-20-2015, 08:32 PM #4
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It is a drop in. It is targeted at use with mechanical conversions, not necessarily against ultra lightweight bolts that only work in electros like the L7 or Hollowpoint.
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Old 03-20-2015, 08:42 PM #5
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will this work in a stage 5.1?
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Old 03-20-2015, 10:19 PM #6
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Not sure, there are several different versions floating around that seem to be all called 5.1. One with the tiny bolt, one with the normal type, and one with the o-ring in the tail section instead of a second tail ring on the bolt.
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Old 03-20-2015, 11:29 PM #7
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I'm building myself a Foehn 2.5 Ion.
Currently has the L7 bolt, but I'm open for something better.
I shoot 10bps, so I don't think that would overwhelm this bolt.
This bolt reminds me a bit of the DeadlyWind hollow point I had
in my old Foehn 2.5 setup.

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Old 03-21-2015, 12:25 AM #8
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will this work in a stage 5.1?
Per Y0da's comments, we'd have to see pictures of what parts you actually have. The can inserts are different as well. This means you might have a lip that supports bolt stops or you might have a straight cylinder which doesn't support anything other than the lucky bolt stop.


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I'm building myself a Foehn 2.5 Ion.
Currently has the L7 bolt, but I'm open for something better.
I shoot 10bps, so I don't think that would overwhelm this bolt.
This bolt reminds me a bit of the DeadlyWind hollow point I had
in my old Foehn 2.5 setup.

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I do not think you'd have a problem BPS wise as I had mine on uncapped ramping and in my mech. Both shot well.
Those bodies are nice though
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Old 03-21-2015, 02:40 AM #9
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I knew id been holding off buying a bolt for a reason.
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Old 03-21-2015, 08:29 AM #10
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The can in my stage 5.1 has the lip for the bolt stop (since is shipped with the v4 lucky bolt) and the back cap is the one that has the two orings. Basically i have the skeleton version of the stage 5.1 that is listed in the stickies if that helps.
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Old 03-21-2015, 09:46 AM #11
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Very cool, its nice to see people still making parts for the ion. Id buy at least one of these if i could find a V2 frame (and a foehn body) to start an ion project.
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Old 03-21-2015, 11:18 AM #12
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The can in my stage 5.1 has the lip for the bolt stop (since is shipped with the v4 lucky bolt) and the back cap is the one that has the two orings. Basically i have the skeleton version of the stage 5.1 that is listed in the stickies if that helps.
This would only work in the version where the back cap has no o-rings on the inside, and relied on o-rings being on the tail of the bolt itself.
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Old 03-23-2015, 03:54 AM #13
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Looks nice, is this different than the bolt setup in your closed bolt conversions?
How would it stack up against an L6?
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Old 03-23-2015, 11:25 AM #14
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It is completely different than the closed bolt setup.

I've never used an L6, so I can't give a comparison.
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Old 03-23-2015, 03:22 PM #15
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Looks nice, is this different than the bolt setup in your closed bolt conversions?
How would it stack up against an L6?
I no longer own an L6, but my understanding is that once one of our long time friends gets his bolt, he will be doing some comparisons.

In my opinion, the L6 was one of the best bolts for the ion.
The L7 had issues with it being simply too light and boards could not time the valving correctly for it to be optimized. This is a combination of the valving itself and the lack of aftermarket solenoids, etc.

Our bolt works very well when compared to the stock bolt (~100fps increase) as our V2 saw ~40fps increase over the stock bolt and the V3 sees another 60? above the V2. Right now, one can only get used L6s which are scarce, or other dual tail oringed bolts which are pretty much the same as the stock bolt. I think that at the pricepoint and performance level considering what is actually available, we are in a good place.

We also have room to improve upon later if needed. Everything we do is a continual learning experience.
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I'm convinced! When I get back to my Ion, it will have a TFG bolt in it
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Old 03-23-2015, 06:10 PM #17
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I'm convinced! When I get back to my Ion, it will have a TFG bolt in it
Good to hear!
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Old 03-23-2015, 06:14 PM #18
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Those are some significant gains. As I've always been a fan of your products and experienced the benefits advertised first-hand, I don't doubt your claims.

However, some may.

Did I miss a fps vid comparison? Ie. shoot the stock bolt in a mech, swap out only the bolt, and chrono the differences? It would silence the (eventual) doubters.

Either way, I'm glad to see that someone out there is still bringing out Ion upgrades. Props.
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Old 03-23-2015, 06:22 PM #19
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Those are some significant gains. As I've always been a fan of your products and experienced the benefits advertised first-hand, I don't doubt your claims.

However, some may.

Did I miss a fps vid comparison? Ie. shoot the stock bolt in a mech, swap out only the bolt, and chrono the differences? It would silence the (eventual) doubters.

Either way, I'm glad to see that someone out there is still bringing out Ion upgrades. Props.
You are correct - some may.
I have not had a chance to get any videos and will be unable to do for some time as I am in my Apt now. Another issue was that I had all ~60 stock ion bolts I own at my apt.. and didn't bring any home.

I don't blame them - be skeptical! I'm very critical of many things, even stuff that y0da and I talk about.

I know that a few people were planning on doing videos / comparisons, so that is what we will have to rely on for the meantime.

As you said, you know how we operate. As busy as Jonathan and I are, we don't have time to be blowing smoke.
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why do i want this so bad?
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Old 03-23-2015, 06:47 PM #21
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why do i want this so bad?
I couldn't tell you for certain, but it may be due to the fact that it's awesome. :3
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