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Old 03-18-2013, 01:28 PM #1
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Wink The Next Generation of Intimidator - Customers will decide - Again.

Guys, we've all been hearing about new body cuts, LV1 talk, new cyborg, blah blah blah... To hell with all this "TALK"

Lets discuss our next intimidator. Not just changing milling.

But Features.

What's most important to you as a player? What do you want out of your gun?

At Blast, Bob and the gang build guns for the players, not the other way around.

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Old 03-18-2013, 01:29 PM #2
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a more adjustable stock trigger, similar to the CP and violent triggers (including spring tension adjustment)

.5bps adjustable increments

An LPR tester that can be used at the same time as the barrel, so you can functionally shoot the marker with the pressure tester attached.

These are super picky, so don't take them 100% seriously
Different colors of bolt pins, perhaps? Also lower profile.

A shot counter on the board

a barrel kit that works with CP barrel backs. (cp already makes them, right? why not make them fit together?). alternatively, a single piece barrel that fits freaks inserts.
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:32 PM #3
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a more adjustable stock trigger, similar to the CP and violent triggers (including spring tension adjustment)
This this this this and this. Love the feel of my premium trigger but more adjustment would be amazing.
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:43 PM #4
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.5 increments is all I could think of as previously stated.
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a more adjustable stock trigger, similar to the CP and violent triggers (including spring tension adjustment)

.5bps adjustable increments
Agree^

Maybe an electronic pressure readout to maximize the pressure tester's use.
Like...if pressure jumps blah blah then have a readout that says, "Clean hpr" I mean, granted still have the pressure tester for MOST accurate tunings (Sensors fail) but have the electric one for quick reference.

Maybe a small memory chip on the marker that records uses statistics and what not and has a port on the board that allows you to see your markers stats and how its running on a spreadsheet.

I really like the 1 button operation...simple and easy.
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:55 PM #6
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hump back frame, like the clamshells.
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What if there was an easier way to maintain it?

Or maybe increased volume in the valve chamber to help make it even EASIER on paint?

Personally, I think it would be great if we could get rid of the schrader valves because I see quite a few folks who break them.

I'd also like to see a valve that is more user friendly, while increasing performance of the marker. I've seen people ruin the rear sections of their bodies by installing their poppit springs backward, scratching the face where the poppit sits, creating a permanent leak.

I too would like to see a trigger assembly that was more adjustable, while getting rid of that pesky trigger spring that is such a pain to reinstall.
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:57 PM #8
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Removing one bolt isn't easy enough to maintain it?
I guess maybe two or three, if you count the HPR and LPR
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Whatever is done, I'd recommend not getting into the game of trying to make the absolute lightest tournament gun on the market. Kids these days don't seem to understand that the lightest gun will also jump around like crazy, and is more susceptible to bending when abused. Not saying a gun should be PMI-3 grade thickness and weight, but there does come that point where guns have been made too light.
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Some sort of IQ test required to own it so *******es don't come in here going "I ran my gun on a 3000 psi airgun tank, lubed it with monkey poo and sand paper, why it no work?"

Although if they could fix the seals so an HP tank can be used that would be nice. Most tanks these days are easily swappable between HP and LP but still, as far as I know Luxes and Axes can handle HP input without blowing anything. .5 board increments would be nice but you don't need a whole gun for that I guarantee you they could flash the software on the current board and have that already.

Schrader valves do seem to be one of the most common failure points that isn't related to user stupidity so even though I've never had a problem with them reliability could probably be improved by getting rid of them.

Trigger adjustments would be great, especially spring tension so magnets could be easily used.
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Some sort of IQ test required to own it so *******es don't come in here going "I ran my gun on a 3000 psi airgun tank, lubed it with monkey poo and sand paper, why it no work?"

Although if they could fix the seals so an HP tank can be used that would be nice. Most tanks these days are easily swappable between HP and LP but still, as far as I know Luxes and Axes can handle HP input without blowing anything. .5 board increments would be nice but you don't need a whole gun for that I guarantee you they could flash the software on the current board and have that already.

Schrader valves do seem to be one of the most common failure points that isn't related to user stupidity so even though I've never had a problem with them reliability could probably be improved by getting rid of them.

Trigger adjustments would be great, especially spring tension so magnets could be easily used.
The luxe will blow orings if you use a HP tank consistently. It's happened to me a few times.

As for the axe, I think since it's regulated down to 200 where the tank connects, it won't have any issues.

Someone told me that bob should get rid of the LPR, and make it internal. This was before the LV1 was released. Does anyone else feel this way?
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Old 03-18-2013, 02:22 PM #12
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I've also been asked to see if bob can make a pressure tester that can be utilized while the barrel is on the gun. That would also be nice.
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I have no issues with the LPR location. why fix what isn't broken?
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Someone told me that bob should get rid of the LPR, and make it internal. This was before the LV1 was released. Does anyone else feel this way?
No. It's funny because the selling point of the internal lpr for the lv1 is exactly why I like the external lpr. Big hands plus wrapping my thumb over barrel, the lpr creates a more comfortable grip.

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hump back frame, like the clamshells.
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maintaining an internal LPR is a *****... I'm not a fan either.
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DYE pulls it off pretty well, though.
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DYE pulls it off pretty well, though.
This. I hate protruding LPRs which is why I don't generally shoot stacked tube poppets.
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Old 03-18-2013, 02:45 PM #18
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yea but I like the color contrast you can get with an external LPR
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I'd have to just state the obvious that's already been said
More adjustable trigger
More adjustable functions in board
Pressure tester to be used with barrel on so kids can see if lpr is way to high.
Allow different tank regs to be used (this is not a problem for me I read the manual slp only) but for younger generation who has no clue..
Also no split body design for ppl to mess up.
Allow the darn thing to be reannodized.

And give me some some new wild milling and not a .2 pound gun
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Here's my opinion:

Bob Long has this stigma of being a difficult gun to use. Many people are almost scared at the fact that you might need to do a little bit more than just lube the ram or bolt; like split the body.

I understand why the body halves were created, but if we could achieve the same access for maintenance without that split it may kill two birds with one stone.

I would focus on subtleties that work on ridding that stigma without swaying from the engineering that has already taken place. This could come in the form of a nice color manual with some basic teching or troubleshooting. Let's face it, no matter how easy it is to print the manual I believe this would help.

Include the pressure tester with every gun. Stop selling it seperately.

A nice case with the premium model (or even all models).

An easier way of ordering what you want online. We live in a world where we barely make phone calls anymore. If I want a splash, it should be easy to order what I want and the colors without calling along with the different milling styles. I understand that some crazy options may be difficult to achieve online, but you could cover most of these things.
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A more adjustable trigger

.25 increments on the ROF

Easier to maintain/take apart


-There's way too many parts that I have to take apart, in order to get to one simple thing. For example, the frame screws. You have to remove the bolt, ram cap, and ram, just to remove the rear frame screw. Also, to get to the poppit, you have to remove the feedneck, eye covers, eye's, frame (see previous sentence), bolt, ram cap, and ram. This takes way too long if you have a problem and are short on time or a clean, clear work space.
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