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Old 06-07-2016, 12:47 AM #1
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Lightbulb Could it be the pressure tester?

So i purchased a g6r a month to the day. Since I've received it I've had the worst luck know to man. Bought a pressure tester the gauge came cracked w/ the needle off. Long story short purchased a new one, so now I'm all excited air it up the guns leaking! change out o rings set pressures to around 75/200 everything fine for a little, air it up again its leaking. Ive spent the last month ripping my hair out trying to get this gun to work!!!

Contacted the company i bought it from and told them that I'm returning it, well just out of curiosity i lowered the lpr pressure on the gun. I remember when i first purchased the marker and was having a leak gamer said to make sure the pressures are right.

To my f*****g surprise the leak stopped. I bought the tester from ANS gear its just the standard G6r one that everyone has. Ive seen a lot of people w/ replacement LPR gauges, could it be that the pressures were just to high even tho it was reading right it was really wrong??

The leak stopped but now it looks like if the gauge was correct which i don't think it is it reads 50-60 something over 200ish psi.

Can someone chime in and lend some knowledge, this gauge cant be right its not the gun after all I've changed everything on it it has to be this gauge! Right?

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Old 06-07-2016, 06:37 AM #2
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Factory gauges are known to be misleading, buy some quality gauges.
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Old 06-07-2016, 08:29 AM #3
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Does you gun shoot at 280 FPS when the LPR is turned down? If it does I would just leave it. Since you bought the gun used I would assume that it has been broken in which could drop the pressures a little bit.
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Old 06-07-2016, 09:55 AM #4
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But that has to be it right? Like why would it stop leakinging, if it was something else wouldn't the leak would persist no matter what the Lpr was at?
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Old 06-07-2016, 09:59 AM #5
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The hpr still had to say 200 tho, and I'm faced w/ sending it back today or not at all don't have access to a corno its really hit or miss
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Old 06-07-2016, 10:09 AM #6
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But that has to be it right? Like why would it stop leakinging, if it was something else wouldn't the leak would persist no matter what the Lpr was at?

In some cases it can be fitment, or a bad oring,

if its one of the ram orings leaking or the poppet oring leaking
having the pressures too high will push air past the, and blow em out,
if the oring is knicked somewhere (small) that will cause you some issues.
you may have orings that are the worng size.

if its the poppet orvalve leaking,
you could have a small scratch on the valves surface causing air to get past, or if its the valve body, you may have some issue with the body or sealing surface bing damaged,

more than likely you ma be having some oring issue.
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Old 06-07-2016, 10:30 AM #7
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I've changed every o ring on this gun and the cuseal, I've also taken it to a shop and let them do i was pretty sure i had the correct o-rings but l right but wanted a 2nd opinion. Everything was on there correct! So i went to air up the gun just now and it was leaking, aired it off then back on the leak stopped, I went outside and adjusted the Lpr extremely slowly and in extremely small increments if those line go by 8 i think I'm sitting somewhere around 70 maybe less these gauges suck, and the hpr is a hair under 200. I know that when i did corno it I was shooting in the 290s the only difference was that the lpr was a half a line over.

the next mystery is i think i need to also locktite the lpr i think the pressures keep changing. Would me lowering the lpr this much drastically lower the hpr? i don't have access to a corno the field is closed and i either have to ship this gun back today or keep it, i did the "hand test'" and it does sting when fired. Idk what to do i really like this gun its been a dream gun for years i don't want to ship it back espically if it was the gauge causing it to leak!

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Old 06-07-2016, 10:53 AM #8
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you may have an oring that is just not quite the right size.
they are out there, not common, but some orings can have poor tolerances.
if youre having an intermittent leak, it sound like one of the orings can still be odd.

The HPR pressure is independent of LPR pressure. you have your input pressure which
the tank reg supplies and will be 450 ish pending the type of reg (LP only)

then you have the vertical HPR, bringing down the flow of air to the operating pressure,
then you have the LPR pulling the air that the HPR supplies, and then regulates the pressure
down further to operate the ram.

adjusting the LPR will have no effect on the HPRs pressure,
adjusting the HPR will have an effect on the LPRs pressure...to a point.

if you use lock tite on the adjuster screws, do so sparingly. blue locktite only.
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Old 06-07-2016, 11:06 AM #9
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alright thanks man for the info!
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no prob, one of the top tips though is to always replace those tiny gauges with big ones.
one, they are much better quality, two its super easy to read.

keep in mind as you adjust your regs, dryfire the gun a few times after adjustment to let
the piston's new position set properlyand give you a proper post-adjustment reading from
the gauge.

you can get them from mcmaster, granger, and even better, macroline guy
http://www.macrolineguy.com/products...oft-Gauge.html
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I think i figured it out but it always is like this good for a day or two then starts acting up. I think the Mainbody Front to Mainbody Rear: 1x18mm o ring even tho new was messed up. I replaced every o ring mutilple times besides this one. Honestly didn't even think about it. Thanks to you guys i think the problem is solved.

I made a post about this but all i need to know now is where can i purchase more of these o rings. I have a 2 parts kit but I'm pretty sure that it didn't include this o ring. i was trying to change it out and none of the o rings were the right size! luckily my friend just gave me his off his g6r that he never uses, and it so far no leaks ill have to see after i play with it hopefully this weekend; but i think i should have atleast a few extra laying around for if and when ill need it. Anyone know a good place to order from? I know oringmonkey but I'm not trying to wait 6 months for it to come.
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Old 06-08-2016, 03:28 PM #12
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Have you also replaced these orings under the manifold?



And the racetrack oring on the frame?




If replacing the 1x18mm doesn't work, look into those options.
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Old 06-09-2016, 07:16 AM #14
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yeha that larger oring can easily unseat when putting the gun together.
took me a couple of tries to get it goopy enough to use the dow 55 as a glue of sorts when i first received my marker.

as always, in moderation.
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you can get them from mcmaster, granger, and even better, macroline guy
http://www.macrolineguy.com/products...oft-Gauge.html
0-160 LPR
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Exactly what I was looking for, thanks
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