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Old 08-25-2007, 04:12 AM #1
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A1-Cut Bolt Mod Walk-Through With PICS!

DO NOT TRY THIS MOD ANYMORE!
DO NOT
DO NOT
DO NOT TRY THIS MOD ANYMORE!!!!!

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guys i have read the whole thread and you must stop doing this mod. we are all getting a1s in for service with both new and old eye covers that are causing the eyes to default. if you cut any grove in the bolt you risk the software resetting in the middle of a string. the closer you are to 300 the more apt this is to happen. the detents are cheap and were designed to wear out. this system was designed as the kiss theory and it works well as designed. the detents are designed to fold forward and back. just want to give you alla heads up.a second problem with cutting groves it it becomes a dirt collector.

A1- Cut Bolt Mod

This mod is a proven method to save detent life that does not effect performance in any way if done correctly!

WARNING: I am not responsible for your mistakes while trying to do this mod! This walk-through is just to explain how i did it. i take no responsibility for your mistakes whatsoever


Tools Needed:
Marker/pen/pencil
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Allen key set

Step 1:
Remove exhaust valve plug with appropriate sized allen key and remove eye covers and detents



Step 2:

Point your gun to the floor so that the bolt slides forward, then put your finger in the feed neck and push down on the bolt to hold it in the forward position. Take your Pencil (or marker or whatever your using) and put it in the detent slot and mark where your detents sit (do this on both sides).


Step 3:

Remove your bolt and draw a line from the mark you made for the detent to the tip of the bolt. Take your dremel with the appropriate attachment and dremel the groove, following the line you just drew. Do this for both sides.

(the scratches you see show up in the picture are actually very small and smooth. If your bothered by them, just use a finer grit sand paper)

Step 4: Take the sand paper and sand down any rough edges. This step is very important so you dont cut your detents in half with a sharp edge

Step 5:
Assemble everything back together, and go play paintball with your longer lasting detents.

Q: Is there any efficiency loss with this mod?

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Since the grooves don't go back far enough to align with the air outlet, I can't imagine why efficiency would decrease. It was a concern for the DIY self-cleaning-eye mod, but there's nothing about this that should allow any more air to escape than normal.
THIS MOD MAY OR MAY NOT WORK WITH THE NEW 3 PIECE EYE COVERS. A COUPLE PEOPLE (including myself) HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE LEFT EYE COVER POPPING OFF WHEN THE BOLT CYCLES. THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN WITH THE 1 PIECE EYE COVERS!
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If you have the 3 part eye cover straps I recomend that you do not do this at all. Doing this Modification will result in gas blowing back down the side of the bolt and it will effect the performance of the 3 part eye cover strap and its ADBs.

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Old 08-25-2007, 04:17 AM #2
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Very nice!
Good idea man.
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Old 08-25-2007, 04:18 AM #3
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I can see a lot of people buying replacement bolts after they cut the **** out of theirs with a Dremel and less-than-steady hand A lathe or mill would make it really precise and clean. WDP was allegedly releasing a bolt with detent grooves, but it apparently never panned out.
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Old 08-25-2007, 04:19 AM #4
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I can see a lot of people buying replacement bolts after they cut the **** out of theirs with a Dremel and less-than-steady hand A lathe or mill would make it really precise and clean. WDP was allegedly releasing a bolt with detent grooves, but it apparently never panned out.
Can you confirm or dis-confirm any sort of efficiency loss with this mod?
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Old 08-25-2007, 04:20 AM #5
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Weird. I wonder why they never produced it.

Anyway, when i get an A1 again i will definetly try this.
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Old 08-25-2007, 04:21 AM #6
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Can you confirm or dis-confirm any sort of efficiency loss with this mod?
Since the grooves don't go back far enough to align with the air outlet, I can't imagine why efficiency would decrease. It was a concern for the DIY self-cleaning-eye mod, but there's nothing about this that should allow any more air to escape than normal.
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Old 08-25-2007, 04:22 AM #7
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Thanks, im going to quote that in the first post for any doubters, if you dont mind
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Old 08-25-2007, 04:24 AM #8
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Old 08-25-2007, 12:34 PM #9
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nice! sticky, maby?
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Old 08-25-2007, 01:17 PM #10
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I think this should be stickied!!!
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Old 08-25-2007, 02:19 PM #11
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sticky it
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:48 PM #13
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come on lets c a sticky
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Old 08-29-2007, 06:49 PM #15
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Sticky POR FAVOR!
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:56 PM #16
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im glad you guys like it. I've suggested it in the Wiki-suggestion thread for the ultimate sticky..so just maybe!
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Old 09-02-2007, 02:35 PM #18
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As an FYI, I did this but used a soldering iron with a 1/8" tip instead of a dremel(I always tear stuff up with that thing). It worked great since it was already the perfect width. All I had to do was wait till it was hot, then lay it across the area where I wanted the groove. No mess either. When the groove was done, I just chipped away the extra melted part with a knife blade.

Just thought I'd pass it along for those that are dremel-dumb, like me.
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As an FYI, I did this but used a soldering iron with a 1/8" tip instead of a dremel(I always tear stuff up with that thing). It worked great since it was already the perfect width. All I had to do was wait till it was hot, then lay it across the area where I wanted the groove. No mess either. When the groove was done, I just chipped away the extra melted part with a knife blade.

Just thought I'd pass it along for those that are dremel-dumb, like me.
That's a great idea. The soldering iron approach would most likely be a lot more precise.
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Old 09-03-2007, 02:03 AM #20
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hmm i wonder if owen would get mad i i did that lol
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i demand a sticky..
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