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Old 08-10-2007, 06:48 AM #1
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Designing my own gat

im in the process of designing my own gun right now. im 15 but know what im doing. My dad owns a machine shop and i know what im doing around a mill and a lathe. now that thats out of the way, i was think a ram and poppit design like a timmy but short and light like an ego. i dont have any rendering software but i think i'll have a friend of mine draw me up some cad drawing. I am trying to make it short and light as possible. I have came up with a smaller diameter wise poppit and integrated ram sleeve to save weight. I think i will use clippard qev's off like an ion for the qev's. theyre small and work good. looking to use a marq or ego frame. need help finding the lightest one. im serious about this so any suggestions would be great.
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Old 08-10-2007, 06:54 AM #2
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hate the feel and would be hard to fit internals
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Interceptor frames and pretty sick,

But as for ego frames try an sl-66 frame ego7 or sl-74 frame
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buy a star frame off ebay.
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Worry about the internals. Start by machining up a big blocky deal that concentrates on the internals. Test and tune that first before you worry about what it looks like from the outside. Once you have your internal arrangement finalized THEN you can worry about the sexy outside shape.
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Worry about the internals. Start by machining up a big blocky deal that concentrates on the internals. Test and tune that first before you worry about what it looks like from the outside. Once you have your internal arrangement finalized THEN you can worry about the sexy outside shape.
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Worry about the internals. Start by machining up a big blocky deal that concentrates on the internals. Test and tune that first before you worry about what it looks like from the outside. Once you have your internal arrangement finalized THEN you can worry about the sexy outside shape.
win, i have a good idea for a spoller, but SP wil prob steal it from me befor i can get a patent on it
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win, i have a good idea for a spoller, but SP wil prob steal it from me befor i can get a patent on it
how the hell would they even know about it? i take it your missing the dodgy?
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Make it like a Nerve.


Nerves are quite compact and have a small Ram/Hammer/Valve assembly if you have actually seen one.


Also, look at CoolHand's "Valkyrie" Which is essentially a single tube viking. Vikings have a small cartridge as well it seems.

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win, i have a good idea for a spoller, but SP wil prob steal it from me befor i can get a patent on it
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i am familiar with a nerve. infact i own one. they are heavy compared to what im going for. i thought of a boltless design today that would work if i could refine it more. it would be fast but i think im gonna just make my own ego body to start with. after i get some body internal milling for a gat under my belt i think i'll start on the custom gun.
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are you familiar with the 3d design thread? they will help you out immesly. most of us have designed multiple guns and are constantly coming up with new ideas. try searching for them.
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heres the link

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=1318436

just copy and paste into your tool bar.
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use an sl74 Frame if you want the lightest.
cheapest would be a Star Frame(05 if you can find one) or 06(there are a few left here and there)
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thanks for the use a (insert gun here) frame but its not that eazy to get one. especial an 07 or sl 74 frame.
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i think im gonna use an extrusion from asp but i think i would need to make a ram sleeve or something since its a constant diameter inside.
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dude use googles scetchup its esyer then CAD (or from what i know) and best of all its FREE
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how the hell would they even know about it? i take it your missing the dodgy?
nope... not missing a dodgy...

i just think when i start to get it compleated SP will se it and steal it from me... *im semi paranoied like that
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SP is already making millions on the guns they have. You should be more worried about other companies trying to get-rich-quick.
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ydna any suggestions. i was on ur site today. sry to hear about all ur guns getting stolen. they even took ur dark shocker. bastards. anyway back on topic. don't know what im gonna do with the ram and what not. will work on more internals when i get the extrusion.
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how about, actual mechanical workings like,

ie, use of an unbalanced spool to seal chamber with a rammer completely separate to actuate a poppet... ect.

instead of the little stuff like breakbeam eyes, cocker threaded, imp threaded feedneck, use of no bolt...... stuff like this are more or less, extra features that are not needed to be included when designing a new marker. stuff like that is usually implemented towards the end of design phases, such as when you actually have a working prototype proving your new "concept works"

many a time i see people claiming of their new concept, usually like this, a basin drawing that anyone could have made with a list of FEATURES. instead of SCHEMATICS or DESIGN



but in the end. really claims like these end up with a person saying, im going to design a flying lambrogini around features that ANY car can have, "cupholders, cd player, neon lights, ect"

but please. heed these words as not a flame. but more as a bit of criticism to get you driving forward to get a working prototype of your boltless gun working. and any questions you may have id do my best to help answer them.

but in the future please...... do not go into public letting everybody know youre going to build this flying lambrogini. and then ask every question that would otherwise be answered by simple common sense and a good bit of studying.

good luck.

oh and ps, that cepter in your sig caught my eye...
I quoted myself from another thread, the most of this applies to you. q-unit,
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When ever you design a gun, Always worry about how it works. Never jump on the train of "what you are going to put on it after its done," before its even finished. when people do this it puts the focus on the little stuff,
but if your going off the ego's design, most of that is allredy taken care of,
but worry about features later.
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