[paintball2]

About Ultimate, don't forget that Legacy got schooled when they first got into the NXL.

[ATLballaz (Banned)]

ok this should hush the haters who know nothing.

http://www.paintball-players.org/cgi...r.cgi?RID=3332

Ok I love how people say Ultimate sucks.
This is the team who with D1 talent had the Naughty Dogs and Infamous struggling to beat by a point.
This is a team that in 2004 played D2 until WC where the moved up to the D1 status and took second.
So winning the crown of D2 and taking second in D1 then going to open (PSP's old Pro division)
In the NXL this was not Ultimate by far.
When the Rhodes brothers,Matt Kress and Ryan Naz left for infamous and Zack and his crew left for the Naughty dogs it has taken Ultimate some time to build the strength in there team to compete.Yet they never ***** or cry there sob story of how un fair it is for players to leave.They continue to play and push there D2 and D3 mix with Pro talent to the highest level of paintball.

http://www.paintball-players.org/cgi-bin/showteams.cgi

[TrOjAn MaN665]

i no it takes time to build a team... but when you've only won 2 matches the there pro career i think they should just bump back to to d1 and just build back up. cause honestly everyone knows they don't deserve to be there.

[EvilPopTart]

Originally Posted by ATLballaz

ok this should hush the haters who know nothing.

http://www.paintball-players.org/cgi...r.cgi?RID=3332

Ok I love how people say Ultimate sucks.
This is the team who with D1 talent had the Naughty Dogs and Infamous struggling to beat by a point.
This is a team that in 2004 played D2 until WC where the moved up to the D1 status and took second.
So winning the crown of D2 and taking second in D1 then going to open (PSP's old Pro division)
In the NXL this was not Ultimate by far.
When the Rhodes brothers,Matt Kress and Ryan Naz left for infamous and Zack and his crew left for the Naughty dogs it has taken Ultimate some time to build the strength in there team to compete.Yet they never ***** or cry there sob story of how un fair it is for players to leave.They continue to play and push there D2 and D3 mix with Pro talent to the highest level of paintball.

http://www.paintball-players.org/cgi-bin/showteams.cgi

Why should they make excuses when they have other people to make excuses for them? Part of being a good pro team is retaining the talent that you have and not being a feeder for competing teams. Im not trying to take anything away from ultimate's past success which by the way occured 3 years ago, however there is a point where obviously what they are doing is not resulting in wins which is the bottom line when being considered for being a good team.

If XSF had not gone 2 and out at the 2004 cup and clenched the d1 xball title, they would probably be the NXL team now instead of ultimate. In fact, most of the kids who played on XSF are pro anyway. The excuse that they moved up too fast is now moot.

[dutch militia]

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[Chris_and_a_1/2 (Banned)]

Originally Posted by TrOjAn MaN665

yea in the 3 years they played pro/nxl they have won 2 matches... i think that means that they need 2 step down.

This is only their 2nd year in the nxl.

[paulson35]

please Try To Stay On Track About Legacy Not Ultimate.

[TrOjAn MaN665]

3rd year in pro.... they played pro the year before they went into the next