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Old 07-01-2007, 09:03 PM #22
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I'm agnostic in practice, but this one kinda made me think:

Over the winter, I was home from college. My girlfriend of almost a year broke up with me because she decided I was too far away and she couldn't stand another semester.

She immediately started dating a body builder who she worked with. This, plus crappy grades, made me really depressed. Finally, as a last resort, my parents took me to talk to my doctor and get help.

So I went and talked to my doctor. After about 2 hours, I felt like I was headed in a good direction. As a joke, he said "I don't think your insurance will cover anything unless I actually do something." So he whipped out his stethoscope and listened quickly to my chest.

Then, he frowned and listened again. That's when I found out I had a heart murmur. This heart murmur is very faint when I'm at rest, but apparently it's greatly exaggerated when I'm under stress.

That's why I didn't do well at cross-country (I literally was dying, not just feeling like it) and other exercise related things.

Coincidence? Maybe.
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Old 07-01-2007, 09:05 PM #23
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People loose their rafts all the time in the ocean. The same current that pulled you to that location is the same current that pulled the raft there.

Not even a hard one.
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Old 07-01-2007, 09:18 PM #24
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People loose their rafts all the time in the ocean. The same current that pulled you to that location is the same current that pulled the raft there.

Not even a hard one.
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Old 07-01-2007, 10:11 PM #25
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last year, my car transmission was going out, plus numerous other problems (the car was 17 years old) and it would be way more than the car was worth to fix it.
well one day i got rear ended with 2 other people in the car, neither were wearing seatbelts, 1 got a bump on her head and thats it, ended up gettin $500 for it, me and the other girl didnt get a scratch, i ended up getting about double what the car was worth and getting a much nicer car, may sound like luck, but i believe it was God
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Old 07-02-2007, 05:39 AM #26
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last year, my car transmission was going out, plus numerous other problems (the car was 17 years old) and it would be way more than the car was worth to fix it.
well one day i got rear ended with 2 other people in the car, neither were wearing seatbelts, 1 got a bump on her head and thats it, ended up gettin $500 for it, me and the other girl didnt get a scratch, i ended up getting about double what the car was worth and getting a much nicer car, may sound like luck, but i believe it was God
If you truely believe in god then you would also believe he does not mess with your free will, therefore did not intervene.
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Old 07-02-2007, 06:25 AM #27
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that is the DEFINITION of luck. i do think its really uncommon and worth a second thought, but im sure thats happened more than you think. and why would god WANT you to have the extra money? was the extra money spent on homeless babies?
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Old 07-02-2007, 06:29 AM #28
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that is the DEFINITION of luck. i do think its really uncommon and worth a second thought, but im sure thats happened more than you think. and why would god WANT you to have the extra money? was the extra money spent on homeless babies?
Of course it was luck. I was in a head on collision a few years ago. A drunk guy hit me 75mph head on. Hard enough to knock the tranny out of my car, split the drivers door into 2 pieces and I am still here. Of course I could not walk for 5 months but I taught myself to walk again, on my own and with the help of some titanium steel and a few screws in my leg.

A lot of what people take as miracles are happenstance. Theu human body is one of the most fragile yet resilient forms in nature. The will to survive, intstinctual will at that, is a very powerful thing. Even when you consciounsly wish you would die for the pain to go away your body will keep on fighting to stay alive.
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Old 07-02-2007, 07:47 PM #29
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Pointless thread... if someone's story has any remnant of another explanation, people will point it out. If it doesn't, they will simply call it a lie.

Some people have already made up their mind regardless of what they're shown or told.
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One of the biggest accidents in the history of F1, surviving a 75G impact, Polish driver Robert Kubica sustains only minor injuries.


http://www.livevideo.com/video/0D986...ubica-f1-.aspx
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Of course it was luck. I was in a head on collision a few years ago. A drunk guy hit me 75mph head on. Hard enough to knock the tranny out of my car, split the drivers door into 2 pieces and I am still here. Of course I could not walk for 5 months but I taught myself to walk again, on my own and with the help of some titanium steel and a few screws in my leg.

A lot of what people take as miracles are happenstance. Theu human body is one of the most fragile yet resilient forms in nature. The will to survive, intstinctual will at that, is a very powerful thing. Even when you consciounsly wish you would die for the pain to go away your body will keep on fighting to stay alive.
Maybe, because God has bigger plans for you in the future....
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Old 07-03-2007, 09:45 PM #32
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http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldF...2?feedType=RSS

I am visiting egypt and I attended that game yesterday. You needed to be there like I was to actually experience what happened. It was absolutely AMAZING! This wasn't directly god, lol, but I prayed like crazy and every time I did the Ahly scored. Scoring with 2 minutes left in regulation then twice in the second period of overtime is almost impossible in soccer.

P.S. Me and my father are MASSIVE Al-Ahly fans and his entire family has been an ahly fan since there creatin in 1907
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Old 07-03-2007, 09:49 PM #33
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One of the biggest accidents in the history of F1, surviving a 75G impact, Polish driver Robert Kubica sustains only minor injuries.


http://www.livevideo.com/video/0D986...ubica-f1-.aspx
Intense. Notice that his helmet never impacts the ground on a roll, that means non concussion or potential head injuries, which are the most likely cause of death. Notice also that he is not ejected onto the road and there is no gasoline fire. The main hull of the car is also mostly intact. As the wheels and everything external gets obliterated and ripped off notice how well the main body of the car stays together.

This is NO accident.

F1 car bodies are designed with EXACTLY that situation in mind. In case of a catastrophic vehicle destruction event, the absolute most important priority of the car is driver survival. Millions of dollars and thousands of man hours are spent to insure that that man WOULD survive with minor injuries.

Miracle? Perhaps, but it's a miracle of science, nothing more.
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Maybe, because God has bigger plans for you in the future....
Apparently, God's big plan is to proliferate atheism.
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I am visiting egypt and I attended that game yesterday. You needed to be there like I was to actually experience what happened. It was absolutely AMAZING! This wasn't directly god, lol, but I prayed like crazy and every time I did the Ahly scored. Scoring with 2 minutes left in regulation then twice in the second period of overtime is almost impossible in soccer.

P.S. Me and my father are MASSIVE Al-Ahly fans and his entire family has been an ahly fan since there creatin in 1907
I think it's pretty safe to say, any god that chooses to answer a prayer from a fan for his team to win over the prayer from a refugee for his sister not to have her breasts cut off isn't a god worth worshipping.
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I'm agnostic in practice, but this one kinda made me think:

Over the winter, I was home from college. My girlfriend of almost a year broke up with me because she decided I was too far away and she couldn't stand another semester.

She immediately started dating a body builder who she worked with. This, plus crappy grades, made me really depressed. Finally, as a last resort, my parents took me to talk to my doctor and get help.

So I went and talked to my doctor. After about 2 hours, I felt like I was headed in a good direction. As a joke, he said "I don't think your insurance will cover anything unless I actually do something." So he whipped out his stethoscope and listened quickly to my chest.

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That's why I didn't do well at cross-country (I literally was dying, not just feeling like it) and other exercise related things.

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