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Old 06-25-2007, 07:40 PM #1
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Exclamation PMR "tophat mod"

What this mod will most likely do for you:
quieter shot(not by much)
less kick(noticeable but not huge difference)
more consistant/accurate(ball on ball)
and possibly if your lucky more efficiency(it worked for me)


i was messing around with my pmr tonite and was wondering if a sort of tophat mod would work with my gun. i took the bolt guide out and on the manifold near the back cap (as far as i could go) i put electrical tape about 1/4 the way up the back wall and also lowered my dwell to 18. i went out to test it and i was getting about a hopper off 400-500 psi!(is that better) i also noticed that the gun was a little quieter (for those of you that care about noise.) the gun also had less kick, it was more consistant and had no drop off. i also have my reg well broken in so im not sure how this will work with a brand new pmr. well i just thought id put this out there that it does work and it will improve your guns performance.

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Okay, sofar I have the following info:

I don't have any clue how to combine all the footage into one film, so I'm uploading all 5 clips lol. (I never claimed I knew how to do this shiznit )

I shot 3 hoppers full and 1 Dye Locklid of paint and killed 2k of my air. Thats REALLY horrible I think hahahaha! Btw, thats my bro's voice in the video, not mine. So please, don't say I sound like a woman, cuz its my bro and not me. He's only 10. It might take a while to upload all these vids too. I have one uploaded (The one showing the dwell) and thats about it .. There are 6 clips in total I think .. So, give me a lil bit of time to upload it ! Be patient plz

Out of all the paint I went through, I did not get a single CHOP, BARREL BREAK, OR DROP OFF AT ALL!

EDIT: Here you guys go!!

Tape: http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m...t=MVI_1357.flv

Dwell: http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m...t=MVI_1345.flv

Chrono: http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m...t=MVI_1355.flv
Some people say they can't see it, so here: 277 -- 277 -- 274 -- 280 -- 277 -- 273

Hopper 1: http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m...t=MVI_1356.flv

Hopper 2: http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m...t=MVI_1351.flv

Hopper 3: http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m...t=MVI_1348.flv
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^^^ Thats roughly 1300 balls a tank guy who posted pics lol.. a lot of people posted while i wrote this haha

Ok I have a Scuba tank but it wasn't full enough to fill up my tank a lot.. I had about 400 psi in my tank! Heres what happened

Set up:
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Lucky 15 .685 barrel
11 wraps of tape around bolt
HPR 3 1/2 turns out
Dwell 20 at the end, read review for what happened

First off i started with dwell 15 and HPR 3 1/2 turns out.. I dont know the velocity but it wasn't too high.
Results- First shot went good then the next one just rolled out so i upped my dwell to 18

Dwell 18 HPR same- the first 2 shots were good and then the next 2 rolled out lol so i upped my dwell to 20

Dwell 20 HPR same- The gun shot very consistent and accurate, there was a little kick but not much. From about 100 feet away my shots were ball on ball, i ended up getting a ball break in the chamber which was a mess.
Before the Mod i was able to shoot this paint non stop and i would not get a break, its storm seconds so it is very very brittle, after the mod on about my 120th shot i got a ball break.

Overall- With the mod it seems to be a little harder on paint, but it could have just been a coincidence. I was able to lower my dwell to 20 and shoot very consistent. I had about 400 psi running through my tank and i got 130 shots. So its roughly 1400-1500 shots off a 71/45. There were no signs of drop off or lag.. The gun shot like it normally would with a little less kick and more efficiency

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Old 06-25-2007, 07:53 PM #2
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Does the PMR bolt have tophat?

Post the pics... be interesting when others test this mod out.
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Old 06-25-2007, 07:56 PM #3
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well can we see pics??
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Old 06-25-2007, 08:02 PM #4
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i can post pics tommorrow and no the pmr doesnt have a tophat (i know you were being sarcastic but others might not)
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Old 06-25-2007, 08:38 PM #5
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Sick! Can't wait to see pics.
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Old 06-25-2007, 08:43 PM #6
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Old 06-25-2007, 08:47 PM #7
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pics are here



sorry for the bad quality but my camera sucks
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Old 06-25-2007, 08:53 PM #8
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Did you notice if you had to raise or lower your HPR after doing the mod? Have you chrono'd it after doing the mod? Interesting mod.... post what you find.
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Old 06-25-2007, 08:55 PM #9
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hmm interesting i think i might want to try this out wont be able to tell results till about at least a week later tank getting rehydroed
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Old 06-25-2007, 08:57 PM #10
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I'm very interested in this mod. Once you hit a chrono and can fine tune, please post your findings. If tape can increase my efficiency and not adversly affect performance I'm all about it
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Old 06-25-2007, 08:58 PM #11
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not being a dick, but tips to take better pics in the future:

im guessing your camera is a point and shoot, so you should back it away a few feet from the bolt, and crop the pictures, if you know how.

The first two pics are out of focus because the camera is too close too the bolt, and it cant focus.

Thats all, otherwise, ill try out the mod.
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Old 06-25-2007, 08:59 PM #12
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i did this mod at my house so i didnt have a chance to crono it yet but it seems like it doesnt need much ajustmant maybe a little higher on the hpr but not much

to beef is good i know that the camera was to close but i was trying to take them fast b/c my batterys were dying and regular batts wont work but ill take better pics tomm thanks for the tips though.

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Old 06-25-2007, 09:17 PM #13
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Sweet. Let us know if it does anything for you.
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Old 06-25-2007, 09:28 PM #14
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I have the top hat tape mod on my l7 bolt as well
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Old 06-25-2007, 10:18 PM #15
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Im accualy thinking about doing it right this second

Edit: i did it but my cam is not functioning. i will let you know with results when i get my battery harness
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Old 06-26-2007, 12:07 AM #16
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just keeping this thread nice and close to the top.

I can't wait to see tested results!!!
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Old 06-26-2007, 12:49 AM #17
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just did it, ill test it tomorrow
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Old 06-26-2007, 12:49 AM #18
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any test resultes waiting for it to be safe brfore i try
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:01 AM #19
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:15 AM #20
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awsome mod, I'm doing it as soon as I can find some electricle tape yay yay.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:48 AM #21
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About how much tape do I have to put on it ? I have a handheld chrono at my house to test it .. My reg is also broken in, so tell me and i'll get results =]
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