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Old 06-19-2007, 10:58 AM #1
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tadao vs. virtue

I have a Evil Minion and a PM7 both ul'd and I was looking to put new boards in them. I'm starting to have doubts as to just what I am going to get out of that. Anyone have experience with both boards and have a preference for one board over the other? If so, don't just tell me to buy a _______, tell me why.
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Old 06-19-2007, 11:46 AM #2
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go virtue longer warranty ive used their boards in a pm6 and an ion there better than tado stock is fine also u really dont need to upgrade the board i only do it to ions or maybe a rail
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Old 06-19-2007, 11:47 AM #3
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thanks for the insight
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Old 06-19-2007, 12:31 PM #4
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no vs. threads but get virtue
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Old 06-19-2007, 12:44 PM #5
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no vs. threads but get virtue
People keep saying this however being a mod of this forum and seeing no rules saying "No VS Thread" I'm wondering where its coming from espicaly since me and the other mod (FallNAngel) have talked about it

Both are good boards and you will not see any performance differance between the two. That being said, Ive always been a Tadao fan boy

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Old 06-19-2007, 12:55 PM #6
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hey guys, thanks a lot for the feedback. I am sure it is just a matter of choice really. I like that virtue offers the laser eyes for the board as well. that is why I was looking to get virtue. However, the eyes and the adapter will end up costing me an extra $4X.XX bucks. but I like that I will have laser eyes. for someone that isn't going to be playing in the big leagues, I am sure just a stock ul board would work just fine. But no matter my level of expertise, I will always enjoy mod-ing my guns.
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Old 06-19-2007, 01:59 PM #7
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i've used tadao, virtue, predator, and hatred boards.
i recommend any of those over virtue
predator>tadao>hatred>virtue
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Old 06-19-2007, 05:34 PM #8
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i'm not going to lie, Virtue is a nice board. so it tadao. my teammate put a virute board in his ion and it was literally night and day. my other teammate uses tadao in his DM5 and that is awesome as well.

However, for adjustablity, firing modes, ramp options, control of the settings of the board, and overall interface, predator is the best. the LED is basic and easy to use, and i find the just remembering the setting registers by just entering in a number of trigger pulls, rather than cycling through colors, is faster and easier to remember.

Edit: AND it's cheaper than other boards
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Old 06-19-2007, 06:20 PM #9
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i have the full virtue setup in my Ion and i love it. little expense but for a little cheaper you could go with the ape rampage board which is also very good.
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Old 06-21-2007, 05:36 PM #10
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my expierence with virtue boards have been less than fun. My friend ordered a vitrue board for his ion. The board was incredibly confusing and it took both of us, using the manual, about half an hour to change firing modes. I purchased a tadao board for my ion. The interface was much more simple and the manual was more straight forward, and easier to understand. Yes the virtue board has more modes and more ways to adjust it, but it is sooo confusing to change modes. The tadao board has more than enough modes for you to get by, and is easier to change settings and navigate through the interface.
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Old 06-21-2007, 05:56 PM #11
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The only thing I don't like about M7s is that there is no option for unlimited eyes off, or anything over 20 eyes off.
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Old 06-21-2007, 06:48 PM #12
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I have heard this about our code too, and I have to ask, how would you control the ROF with unlimited and eyes off? Basically the board would just hit the solenoid as fast as possible (50 cps?) and no paint would ever get out the barrel.

It could be I just don't understand what you are asking for.
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Old 06-21-2007, 11:39 PM #13
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Unlimited is a bad word to use, because if it's truly "unlimited" (40+?) then the gun wont likely even be able to fully cycle that fast.

I guess all I would like is a scaleable eyes off MROF, maybe to 35? Even to 30 would kick ***.
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Old 06-22-2007, 01:10 AM #14
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For some insight that I have heard. Tadao supposingly (sp?) has the board's microchip scan for trigger pulls 3x as much as virtue. Supposingly virtue's scaning is 2 million per second while tadao's is closer to 7 million. I'm not sure how true that is but I've used both and Tadao won in my mind.
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Old 06-22-2007, 01:39 AM #15
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my expierence with virtue boards have been less than fun. My friend ordered a vitrue board for his ion. The board was incredibly confusing and it took both of us, using the manual, about half an hour to change firing modes. I purchased a tadao board for my ion. The interface was much more simple and the manual was more straight forward, and easier to understand. Yes the virtue board has more modes and more ways to adjust it, but it is sooo confusing to change modes. The tadao board has more than enough modes for you to get by, and is easier to change settings and navigate through the interface.
not to really criticize you but is it really that hard to change the modes. pull the trigger and turn on the gun. then hold the trigger down again and pull the trigger based a number of times to the specific firing mode. I'm Seal6's teamate and i had virtue for my ion. I liked it a lot compared to the pos stock board. Well i dont even have that gun anymore but i was really considering Virtue for my dm6 or possibly tadao.


Well based on personal experience/use id go virtue because when i used it, the gun straight up mowed faces.

Edit: I shot so fast in semi, the ref looked at my gun fired 4 shots to look for burst/auto and after it didnt burst he was suprised.
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Old 06-22-2007, 10:25 AM #16
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I have heard this about our code too, and I have to ask, how would you control the ROF with unlimited and eyes off? Basically the board would just hit the solenoid as fast as possible (50 cps?) and no paint would ever get out the barrel.

It could be I just don't understand what you are asking for.
a couple of ways to do it:
  1. Leave the eyes on to monitor bolt movement (as the Nox software does now), but ignore whether there's a ball present or not and remove any added delay padding that would slow down the ROF
  2. Don't worry about monitoring the eyes and instead just fire the marker regardless of it's state (I'm sure you can see problems with this)

Of course, there's things I'd rather see instead, such as a UL board ( -.- ), maybe a pre-shot modifier (pull the trigger x times before ramping starts). I like Nox's software, just having a hard time figuring out how to fit one into a UL frame the way I want.


*ANYWAY*
I'd definitely take Tadao over Virtue... if absolutely nothing else, I haven't heard of Tadao lieing to their customers. Honestly though, what features would either have that you'd actually *use* that the UL board doesn't have?
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Old 06-22-2007, 12:04 PM #17
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Old 06-22-2007, 12:14 PM #18
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both are incredible boards, and honestly... you probably will never notice any performance difference between the two of them.

I think Tadao might be a little cheaper but AdvantagePB offers a better (longer) warrenty which is the only thing that would impact my decision... ive owned both and would prob get a virtue if i had a choice, but the choice is yours.
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Old 06-22-2007, 12:26 PM #19
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Predator ftw, lol. ive used predators tadaos and virtues.. well i was forced to buy a virtue. i think there was somthing wrong with it(i had to set me dwell to 30 to get it to fire). its a long story, my predator got fried magicly when i sent it to SP in my shocker.. <_< . i just throught tadao's and Predator's shot better in semi.
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Old 06-22-2007, 01:10 PM #20
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Either one is going to get you awesome results, I've never used tadao boards but the people that have them at my field swear by them...the same goes for us virtue guys. I've used the virtue board on all my DM's...it's an awesome board, you can really notice the consistency of the ROF while in semi when compared to the stock UL board. I've seen problems (leaks, eyes, slow ROF) disappear just by putting a virtue chip/board in a matrix.

Both will give you the results you want...it just depends on what company's product you end up using first. For me...Virtue
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Old 06-22-2007, 04:30 PM #21
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tadao is the way to go, my DM is tadao'd, and its the fastest, consistent, and by far the most amazing board ive ever shot
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