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Old 05-28-2007, 06:31 AM #43
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Old 05-28-2007, 08:40 PM #44
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While reading over some theology books and checking the tribal history of a region I came across this:

Abraham is said in genesis 11:31 to have left the city of his fathers Ur of the Chaldees." Had the material on abraham found in genesis been written before the Israelites settle in Caanan or at the least before said monarchy, had this epic actually been written by moses, we would expect the Ur would be referred to as a city of the Sumerians (who actually built it) or at the least even the Amorites of Hammurabi's day, circa 2100 BC. The Chaldeans had not infiltrated the area around Ur until about 1100 BC and did not seize the city until around 800 BC. The Chaldeans were not the masters of Mesopotamia until the collapse of the Assyrian empire (612 BC). Thus the reference to "UR of the Chaldees" dates the writing being at the least later than 1100 BC and as laste as 800 BC.
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Scholars & archeaology show they were. Especially the Epic of Gilgamesh as it was written in cuneform, the first written language. All of the stories are from cultures that existed before any of the modern religions.
what is your point... that the bible and history flow together... well DUH>
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what is your point... that the bible and history flow together... well DUH>
Wow, just wow. You cannot fathom the obvious I guess.
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lol.. i just wanted to bug you.

i dont feel like reading three pages of ancient history/facts..

whats the arguement. am i allowed to jump in
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You do realize that both of those links prove it existed before christianity right?
your so taken and fooled by myth and folly... I would say by the devil.

You miss the point as Christianity is the fulfillment of the Old Testament, of predictions by the Jewish prophets. Difference here is you’re holding up a cult that notes simulate events documented in history by so many cultures and cults and religions. Hmmm must be significant, the stories, the flood, etc… So does this mean you believe in the great flood based on this cult? Or the great flood at all?

Differently, Christianity fulfills the word of God as prophesied by the Jews and the events of early time. Oh yea, Christianity did begin later, about 2000 years ago, as it had to fulfill the prophecy as promised by God. If it came first it would be no more than a Mithraism cult.



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"December 25 popularized
In Rome December 25 was made popular by Pope Liberius in 354 and became the rule in the West in 435 when the first "Christ mass" was officiated by Pope Sixtus III. This coincided with the date of a celebration by the Romans to their primary god, the Sun, and to Mithras, a popular Persian sun god supposedly born on the same day. The Roman Catholic writer Mario Righetti candidly admits that, "to facilitate the acceptance of the faith by the pagan masses, the Church of Rome found it convenient to institute the 25th of December as the feast of the birth of Christ to divert them from the pagan feast, celebrated on the same day in honor of the 'Invincible Sun' Mithras, the conqueror of darkness" (Manual of Liturgical History, 1955, Vol. 2, p. 67). "


If you really understood Christianity you would know that the date of his death is the day of true celebration, as this is the fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy...
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