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Old 04-08-2003, 10:14 AM #43
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Old 04-08-2003, 10:25 AM #44
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Re: wtf 30?

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Ok wtf. Be realistic here. there is no point in making a gun that can shoot 30bps. no ones fingers can move that fast. Most pros can get to around 20 or so, but 30 lets be practical. Pball field restrict the rate of fire half the time too. why not make a gun that can go 20 all the time shoots perfect, and it cheaper than 900 bucks. "get rid of the computer **** and get down to the paintball. "

on the 'why 30bps?' im almost certain the reason behind that high amount is to lessen the tension on the trigger pull. in so that you can get the maximum rof pulls your finger(s) makes. (*whats really going to blow your mind is that shocktech's bushmaster is capped at 66.6bps)
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Old 04-08-2003, 12:41 PM #45
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Anyone know who has these in stock or is pre-ordering them?
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Old 04-08-2003, 01:03 PM #46
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Old 04-08-2003, 01:23 PM #47
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Old 04-08-2003, 01:50 PM #48
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like some said, 30 BPS *does* matter.

I can outshoot a ball stack of 3 balls with an IR3 set to 20 bps and cops off. I can't outshoot the same stack with an IR3 set to 14 bps. It simply makes up for the fact that your fingers can't pull at a consistent, steady rate.

Likewise, I can hit 16 bps when it's set to 20, and about 14 bps when it's set to 16. That's why Timmies are so easy to fire fast.. their boards have such high caps.
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Old 04-08-2003, 07:46 PM #49
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Tempest is right. as soon as peopel get thier preordered speeds, lets get some pics up!
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Old 04-08-2003, 08:31 PM #50
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what barrel size does the speed have? it looks to me like a 14in but i need a second opinion
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Old 04-08-2003, 09:21 PM #51
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it doesnt have COPS or ACE it has something new called Sensi......never heard anything about it yet but it should be good!
thats cool these SPEEDs are great on air and are lighter than the fly i guess....no game timmers...guess i have to get the old timmer out....
BUT over all i have get me one of them! .....30bps!!!!!!
oh and they already come with a trigger job!
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Old 04-09-2003, 08:57 AM #52
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It looks like the pre-order price is going up. If you were planning on ordering one you might still be able to find a site that's charging $900, instead of $950.
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Old 04-09-2003, 12:43 PM #53
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As the prices go up my interest goes down......$850 sounded really good for some reason but $950 is sounding too much!
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Old 04-09-2003, 07:04 PM #54
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eh

angel prices are never stable until they've been on the market for a few months. I want one, but I'll wait it out.
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Old 04-09-2003, 07:36 PM #55
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Was perving at those darks and rocks at http://www.warpedsportz.com

Noticed they still got speeds on pre-order for $899.
Either way, i recon mo's and co upped the prices for the pre-order period only, possibly direct orders from wdp for some reason or another. Probably just playing the market.

I would hold out in buying for now. I still believe WDP wants to keep the MSRP for this marker around $850 -899.
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Old 04-09-2003, 10:54 PM #56
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You spoke too soon becuase they are $950 now
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Old 04-09-2003, 10:54 PM #57
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people need to read and not say another word about (HEY, people can't shoot 30bps so it is pointless to have it......) cuz it has been said SOOO many times that it increases possible ROF by users, so no more!!!!!!

WHEW!!

this gun looks b*t*h*n!!!!!
GO WDP!!!!

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Old 04-09-2003, 11:53 PM #58
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www.theangelguy.com offers it for $950 with a lifetime warranty- I think that's worth the extra dough.
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Old 04-10-2003, 12:02 AM #59
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I pre-ordered my mine from Mo's for 900 and it comes with a lifetime warranty too.


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Old 04-10-2003, 04:05 PM #60
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anyone know if the old tools will still work?
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Old 04-10-2003, 05:31 PM #61
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Whats the purpose of this gun..

Is it going to be better than the ir3? or all the same

im confused. i dont know why wdp is making this gun?

if ir3s are selling so good why are they making this gun? and for so much cheaper?

i dont know. I think ill stick with highpressure.. Less problems for me anyways
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Old 04-10-2003, 07:44 PM #62
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I think to compete w/ lower prices good electros like the viking, impy, and bushy now that it comes w/ a pds.
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Old 04-10-2003, 08:04 PM #63
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i guess, oh well.. i love my ir3 and im not about to sell it out just because a new gun came out..

thats just retarted.

is there a way that gun is going to be that much of an improvement?

oh well.. we will see.

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