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Old 04-03-2007, 08:27 PM #22
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Old 04-03-2007, 08:29 PM #23
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So god created Rapist, Murders, Psychopaths, etc.?
God created everyone. Then man was decieved my satan and sinned. A rapist and murders were created by God but do to their sin they do what they do. My God forgives rapists and murders if they repent of their sins by accepting Jesus died on the cross for their sins because Jesus was the perfect sacrifice.
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Overbear believes man to be "gods" since he can only see people who put humanity ONLY as people all other he holds a disdain. Yes, he has made statements to that effect. I'm sure overbear will correct me and clarify this.
I hold in disdane, anyone who puts humanity second under a 'god' or 'religion' but yea you got the jist of it.

Yes, I have said, and will keep saying, the bible is the biggest book of fiction ever made, and anyone who folows it, is eather a fool, or brainwashed into believing it over the basic tennets of humanity

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God created everyone. Then man was decieved my satan and sinned. A rapist and murders were created by God but do to their sin they do what they do. My God forgives rapists and murders if they repent of their sins by accepting Jesus died on the cross for their sins because Jesus was the perfect sacrifice.
So I could go out and kill a whole entire family, then confess about it and still go to heaven?
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Old 04-03-2007, 08:40 PM #26
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I hold in disdane, anyone who puts humanity second under a 'god' or 'religion' but yea you got the jist of it.

Yes, I have said, and will keep saying, the bible is the biggest book of fiction ever made,
Then here is a test to prove if a acient document is true.
1. Whar is the Number of acient maniscripts that still exists?
2. What is the dtae of the manuscript compared to the date of the original?

Aristotle taught and wrote in the 4th century B.C. we have 5 copies of his studies. THe earliest one dates to AD1100 a 1400 years gap between original and copy.

Greek Historian Herodotus wore in the 5th Century BC we hace 8 copies of his work. The earlist dates to 900 AD a 1300 year gap.

Homer's Illiad comes from 800 BC we have 642 copis and the earlist dates from 200 AD a 1000 year gap.

The new Testament of the bible was mostly written in the first Century AD. We have greak copies and if you include the latin copies we have 24000. We have an almost complete New testament in Greak From the 4th century AD a 300 year gap.

I am not saying the whole bible is true ( i believe it is) but that is enough evidence for me to believe that the new testament is true.
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Old 04-03-2007, 08:41 PM #27
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So I could go out and kill a whole entire family, then confess about it and still go to heaven?
Yes if you were truly sorry for what you did. God knows your heart andknows if you are truly confessing that what you did was wrong.
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Then here is a test to prove if a acient document is true.
1. Whar is the Number of acient maniscripts that still exists?
2. What is the dtae of the manuscript compared to the date of the original?

Aristotle taught and wrote in the 4th century B.C. we have 5 copies of his studies. THe earliest one dates to AD1100 a 1400 years gap between original and copy.

Greek Historian Herodotus wore in the 5th Century BC we hace 8 copies of his work. The earlist dates to 900 AD a 1300 year gap.

Homer's Illiad comes from 800 BC we have 642 copis and the earlist dates from 200 AD a 1000 year gap.

The new Testament of the bible was mostly written in the first Century AD. We have greak copies and if you include the latin copies we have 24000. We have an almost complete New testament in Greak From the 4th century AD a 300 year gap.

I am not saying the whole bible is true ( i believe it is) but that is enough evidence for me to believe that the new testament is true.
Think of this. If you had original manuscripts of the bible they would have been written in aramaic, not greek. Dont' you think manuscripts from 300 years after the death would have been changed to fit the writer? Word of mouth stories never hold their original meaning, expecially over decades and centuries
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