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Old 03-28-2007, 08:43 PM #43
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How is evolution dependent at what time the universe started? How could the theory not just be adjusted to fit the times it started. I mean if you can belive the galaxy can be created as is, then is it impossible to belive that evolution may have happned faster than we once belived?

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Old 03-28-2007, 08:58 PM #44
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As far as the museum goes, I'll say that it's about time! I definitely don't agree with some of their ideas, but it's great to see a museum that shows a different view of that world. That's how you learn - by studying more than possibility.
did you forget the , or are you serious?
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OMG. Like I said in a thread before this, I am embarrased by my state. I promise I am moving out as soon as possible. (Not true, I love my little town.)

And, with all the children that die every year because they are homless and have no food, would Jesus do this? I mean, would he rather make a museum, or save lives?

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TES or Tippmann please answer the one about light travel. I would love to hear that broken down to fit into your 8,000 yr old Universe.
its funny how people just throw things out there
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wow i could buy 54000 05 egos with that money does this make anyone else wanna burn southern catholic churches and shoot priests lol seriously tho this really makes me mad its so fricken rediculous
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its funny how people just throw things out there
So you are saying you cannot answer this?
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wow i could buy 54000 05 egos with that money does this make anyone else wanna burn southern catholic churches and shoot priests lol seriously tho this really makes me mad its so fricken rediculous
well, though I don't necessarily agree with all their theories, I think it's good to see differing views presented, instead of being "forced" in a direction that is presented as factual on every side.
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So you are saying you cannot answer this?
answer what? it was not a question. He falsely claimed that I believed the earth was sub 8,000 years old
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well, though I don't necessarily agree with all their theories, I think it's good to see differing views presented, instead of being "forced" in a direction that is presented as factual on every side.
were we reading different articles or something? are you telling me that they are not presenting their crap as the truth?
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If it really did exist, a global flood can be the culprit for such a movement of the continents.
please explain how a flood can move continents
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hahahahahaha! that's absolutely ridiculous.
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One of the examples when I put out a, IMHO very good, argument, and it is brushed aside and ignored.
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were we reading different articles or something? are you telling me that they are not presenting their crap as the truth?
I dunno, when did I say they weren't?
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answer what? it was not a question. He falsely claimed that I believed the earth was sub 8,000 years old

I'm glad you don't, because it's not. It's much older than that. Try billions of years old.
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As far as the museum goes, I'll say that it's about time! I definitely don't agree with some of their ideas, but it's great to see a museum that shows a different view of that world. That's how you learn - by studying more than possibility. It's sad to see the same people that think 27 million is a waste of money when in turn they might think 27 million for an evolution museum, all of its faults included, is just fine. A bit hypocritical if you ask me.



From an evolutionists view, how long it took for light to come from the stars seems like a home run to disproving Creationism. However that's not the case. During Creation, everything created was in a mature state that was "good". The Creator of the universe isn't limited by the very scientific was He created, so a star can be made at any stage of it's life with it's light shining anywhere it would normally. An even better example is the solar system. The moon obviously didn't gain all those craters and surface features in a few thousand years. However God doesn't need time to make natural features. It was created, like the earth and its creatures, in a "good", mature or non-mature state.

For example, a scientist may perform a carbon-dating process on an artifact. He finds that approximately 75% of the Carbon-14 has decayed by electron emission to Nitrogen-14, and infers that this artifact is approximately 11,000 years old, as the half-life of Carbon-14 appears to be 5,730 years. But what our scientist does not realize is that every time he makes a measurement, the Flying Spaghetti Monster is there changing the results with His Noodly Appendage.

On the other hand, the light coming from stars, quasars, and other objects billions of miles away actually has a chance of disproving or changing the timeline evolution. Optical equipment is getting so good that we can see light from objects billions of miles away (2.5 billion light years for a certain quasar). There might come a time very soon when we can see objects such as quasars that are as far away in billion of light years as the universe is old according to the big bang theory. That would require evolutionists to either scrap the big bang theory or push it back in time. The effect of evolutionists being wrong again would be damaging to their theories. So something that on the surface appears to be a stab at Creationism can turn out to be the exact opposite. Time will tell if this will be the case.



Be glad to (I'm studying earth science this semester). Like the previous example of light travel, the same idea applies to continental drift. In Creationism, Pangea, or the lack thereof,can fit in just fine. If it really did exist, a global flood can be the culprit for such a movement of the continents. If it didn't exist, the fossils common to multiple continents can also be attributed to the Flood (the Creator, ultimately) breaking up Pangea. Of course it could be just a coincidence that a couple continent shorelines fit together.The vast majority of the continent lines don't match well. It wouldn't be the first coincidence since evolution is filled with them. As far the natural processes we see today, the Creator of the universe (and natural processes) could have simply set them in place. God said the earth was "good". Is "good" really good when natural processes are absent? Incomplete sounds like a better word. Continental drift and seafloor spreading are just like every other natural process we find, and it isn't sufficient to prove or disprove evolutionism and Creationism.



That's not surprising. Many people that don't believe in evolution are the folks that were in school before science became a one-possibility, anti-Christian/Creationism brainwashing. So the question is this: Is the lack of education the factor for them believing in creationism? Or is the reason why they don't believe in evolution because they haven't been told that it's the only way? It could go either way.

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Old 03-29-2007, 06:12 PM #59
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wtf that article is some messed up crap but let people do what they do. spend millions of dollars on a worthless meuseum that will go bankrupt in 10 years. maybe that will teach the idiots that are opening that piece a lesson.
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Old 03-29-2007, 08:00 PM #61
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what leads creationists to believe that the earth is 8000 or 6000 years old... and another good point is if the sun was created on the 4th? day then how could one determine how long the first 3 days were. 24 hours? i doubt it (yes i got that from inherit the wind )
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Wow, this thread is silly and that museum is even sillier. Not much else can be said.
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That's the worst way to blow 27M I've ever seen.
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