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Old 03-20-2007, 12:57 AM #1
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The Supernatural?

How many people in the religion section believe in some form of the supernatural? I mean of course spirits and the like. I know some sects of Christianity look on theories of the supernatural as sinful or something, but how many people on here are fascinated with and believe that there is supernatural activity around us? Have you ever had any experiences? Has it affected your religious views? I for one have had tons of experiences that I believe to include the supernatural. I have experienced poltergeist activity, visible spirits, orbs, etc.

Another thing I have experienced which may be considered supernatural is contact with the dead. I was going through a very tough time in a relationship and I found myself just broken down in tears on the bathroom floor. All of a sudden I could feel someone embracing me but not physically. It was different than a physical hug. I also began to communicate with someone, but not verbally. I could hear someone speaking to me, but again, not verbally. I believe it was my grandfather whom I never was able to meet. He joked with me and comforted me for about 10 minutes. After talking about the experience with my mom and dad, they both were amazed to hear what he had said to me. They told me at once that it had to be him just by the way he spoke and what he said. Anyone have similar experiences that were similarly supernatural?
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How many people in the religion section believe in some form of the supernatural?
yes, I do.
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I know some sects of Christianity look on theories of the supernatural as sinful or something,
oh really? care to elaborate on which sects those are and the reasons you believe that they believe this?
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but how many people on here are fascinated with and believe that there is supernatural activity around us?
I don't know about fascinated, but I am curious.
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Have you ever had any experiences?
yes.
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Has it affected your religious views?
not in the least.
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I for one have had tons of experiences that I believe to include the supernatural. I have experienced poltergeist activity, visible spirits, orbs, etc.
kewl! any pictures, IR, spectrography or anything like that, that you could share?
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Another thing I have experienced which may be considered supernatural is contact with the dead. I was going through a very tough time in a relationship and I found myself just broken down in tears on the bathroom floor. All of a sudden I could feel someone embracing me but not physically. It was different than a physical hug. I also began to communicate with someone, but not verbally. I could hear someone speaking to me, but again, not verbally. I believe it was my grandfather whom I never was able to meet. He joked with me and comforted me for about 10 minutes. After talking about the experience with my mom and dad, they both were amazed to hear what he had said to me. They told me at once that it had to be him just by the way he spoke and what he said.
how do you "know" it was him, since you never met him? Is it possible that it was not him? not saying one way or another, just wondering if perhaps your mind had made something familiar out of the unfamiliar. maybe from a recognizable sense or another, and then put the pieces together in an "orderly fashion" that your mind could comprehend.
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Same question, but beaten.
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Pardon my ignorance, but care to elaborate on the diffrence? I always thought both referred to ghosts and the like.
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oh really? care to elaborate on which sects those are and the reasons you believe that they believe this?
A friend of our family is a sect of Christianity (not sure which). It's not a wierd, no name sect, I believe it's either Baptist or something else. He was scolding us when we got back from Gettysburg. Whatever it is, it's very ultra-conservative.

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kewl! any pictures, IR, spectrography or anything like that, that you could share?
Yes but not on this computer. They are at my home computer, I'm at school. The pictures are of orbs in Devil's Den and the wheatfield, two of the bloodiest areas of fighting during the second day of the battlefield. They are not dust spots or insects as many orb photographs turn out to be. The composition and shape of the orbs are very unique to real orbs. It is quite easy to tell the difference.

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how do you "know" it was him, since you never met him? Is it possible that it was not him? not saying one way or another, just wondering if perhaps your mind had made something familiar out of the unfamiliar. maybe from a recognizable sense or another, and then put the pieces together in an "orderly fashion" that your mind could comprehend.
I'm not sure I can put it into words. I just can't explain it. I've never met him before. After explaining what he said to me and his mannerisms/character to my mom and dad, they stared at each other with their jaws on the floor. They said it was exactly the way he had acted in life. Again, I never met him so I would not have had a reference for this. There is no logical way to explain how I knew it was him. I don't expect anyone to believe it really was him, since I myself hold anything that is not logically explainable to empirical criticism.
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Not really, but I don't doubt its existence. (Assuming you're referring to "ghosts" and the like)
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yes, I do.

oh really? care to elaborate on which sects those are and the reasons you believe that they believe this?
Magic is a "sin" but as far as ghost (or other beings/things), if you see a ghost, it's not exactly your fault.
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Magic is a "sin" but as far as ghost (or other beings/things), if you see a ghost, it's not exactly your fault.
david copperfield is going to hell??????!!?!??!
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Magic is a "sin" but as far as ghost (or other beings/things), if you see a ghost, it's not exactly your fault.
where did he mention magic?
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david copperfield is going to hell??????!!?!??!
No one likes him anyways.
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Voodoo is a relgion.
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I was a bit of a skeptic, but I have come to believe it, as my significant other has told me about experiences with Ouija boards and such.

I havn't had any personal experiences myself, though. The closest have been personal religious based experiences.
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Ive always thought of ghosts and the supernatural as the brain acting in ways we cannot describe.

We only use 10% of our brains, when we are told something is haunted, why cant we just be using the other 90% of our brains and just be playing tricks on ourself without realizing it
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Ive always thought of ghosts and the supernatural as the brain acting in ways we cannot describe.

We only use 10% of our brains, when we are told something is haunted, why cant we just be using the other 90% of our brains and just be playing tricks on ourself without realizing it
That is a myth of "popular science" created in I believe the 80's. There are several versions of the myth including the 3%, 6%, and various other versions. We use 100% of our brains every day or else we would die. Psychology proves this myth false time and time again, but since it's been said so much it has become "truth". It is false. Just like ink blot tests have been proven to be completely innacurate and totally useless. That 10% myth and the ink blot business came out of neo-Freudian psycho-babble that has nothing to do with real psychology. Sorry, you've been lied to.
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The brain can sometimes complete images from pieces and allow your eyes to see what's not entirely true. Every "supernatural" experience I' thought I've had was plausibly explained. Every "ghost" was later found to just be an object shrouded in darkness or a reflection on glass.

The "supernatural" is simply the manifestation of the irrational by a frightened mind. I don't believe such nonsense, and neither should any of my pastafarian followers.
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I had a wierd dream where I thought I was being choked in my bed, but when I woke up I was fully aware of where I was(if anybody has ever been knocked out you have no clue where the **** you are) and my body position was wrong.

another time i had a dream that I got a late night phone call from a guy that I was sposed to go flying with. When I answered my cell phone(dreaming of course) some information was said that the caller would not have known. I then dreamed that I heard the sounds of a person making grunts with their mouth covered and my false phone went dead. That was when I woke up to find my hand near my ear and my phone sitting on my dresser being charged.

In both of these I was freaked the **** out and after some thinking I decided that it was fake and went back to sleep. Although after the choking incident I went bac kto sleep with a knife in my hand. I didn't take the time to think things through until later in the day when I should have been listening to my teachers talk.
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The brain can sometimes complete images from pieces and allow your eyes to see what's not entirely true. Every "supernatural" experience I' thought I've had was plausibly explained. Every "ghost" was later found to just be an object shrouded in darkness or a reflection on glass.
I can buy that for non-moving "ghostly" objects. But how do explain watching the human form of a 7-10 yo boy walk through your foyer and into your kitchen as you are wide awake?

How about listening to children play in your kitchen downstairs, as you stand at the top of the staircase?

How about seeing a man with a beard, appear in your backyard in brood daylight?

How about seeing the former owner of your house gardening in your backyard before you even had seen a picture of her or knew that she liked to garden?

Those are just a few of my run-ins. I'd be totally willing to discuss any of them with you.
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The brain can sometimes complete images from pieces and allow your eyes to see what's not entirely true. Every "supernatural" experience I' thought I've had was plausibly explained. Every "ghost" was later found to just be an object shrouded in darkness or a reflection on glass.

The "supernatural" is simply the manifestation of the irrational by a frightened mind. I don't believe such nonsense, and neither should any of my pastafarian followers.
This is obvoiusly crap. Nowhere does it account for God. Or any other supernatural being.

This sounds like someone who wants critical, rational thought to be used. What a sphincter!

You mean like a dream? Where your brain randomly pieces things together. When it assimilates the days memories with past memories and sometimes we see them out of order. Which results in some really weird things. A misfire in the neuronal net of the memory area? Mistranslation of visual data along the optic nerves? Which would allow you to "see" something abnormal?

No way! I call BS! Try believing in something more unrealistic like demons from the inner reaches of the pit of hell. Now that sounds cool!

OK, a liitle over the top. Not trying to offend you warbeak. In a MUCH less sarcastic tone, no I don't believe in the supernatural. Except for that fat little green guy Slimer, from Ghostbusters. He was a funny little bastard.
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