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Old 03-17-2007, 11:48 PM #106
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Really, if we are being taught evolution (which is presented as fact and not a theory), then schools should also teach the theory of intelligent design...

Oh, wait, I forgot, it's politically incorrect to be a Christian

LOL @ its not politically correct to be Christian. Please, come to my school/area sometime and be flooded with the light of jesus. Im embarrased by the amount of Creationists and the extremism of them here. We learned Evolution as theory and they made a point to say that it is not a fact infinite amounts of time. We were also taught about various religions, including Judaism, Bhuddism, Hindu, Islam, Zoroastism(sp?). Of course Christianity was given the majority of the focus, and presented as fact. No I do not attend a christian school, its a public school.
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Old 03-18-2007, 01:44 AM #107
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oh wait, intelligent design is not a theory
Definition of "Intelligent Design" from Webster's New Millennium Dictionary of English:

"A theory that nature and complex biological structures were designed by intelligent beings and were not created by chance"

Care to say anything else?

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LOL @ its not politically correct to be Christian. Please, come to my school/area sometime and be flooded with the light of jesus. Im embarrased by the amount of Creationists and the extremism of them here. We learned Evolution as theory and they made a point to say that it is not a fact infinite amounts of time. We were also taught about various religions, including Judaism, Bhuddism, Hindu, Islam, Zoroastism(sp?). Of course Christianity was given the majority of the focus, and presented as fact. No I do not attend a christian school, its a public school.
Really? Because in the CA state text books hardly mention Christianity. We had a decently sized section dedicated to Zoroastrianism too... but Christianity is hardly mentioned... God forbid anyone gets offended

In fact, they define the 10 Commandments as "Guidelines for the followers of Moses"... and Jesus Christ was the "Founder of Christianity", because, of COURSE, if you mention he claimed that he was the son of God, people would go insane and sue the school system.

I would estimate the number of true Christians in my class of 500 at... 5-10 overtly, 50 total, if that.
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ID is no where near a design. If you dug a little deeper into what a theory is you would understand this.

In science(which is what this debate is based on), an explanation or model that covers a substantial group of occurrences in nature and has been confirmed by a substantial number of experiments and observations. ID does not hold up to a proper theory as it has never been tested or put up in a peer review. The reason being is because it has 0 basis in fact or proof. If it were ever put up to a peer review of independent scientist it would not even hold up to a hypothesis.
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Old 03-18-2007, 01:10 PM #109
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Definition of "Intelligent Design" from Webster's New Millennium Dictionary of English:

"A theory that nature and complex biological structures were designed by intelligent beings and were not created by chance"

Care to say anything else?
My mistake, you are correct. Let me rephrase

ID is a theory - a conjecture, an opinion, or a speculation

ID is not a scientific theoryb- a mathematical description, a logical explanation, a verified hypothesis, or a proven model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise falsified through empirical observation
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Pastafarian creationism will be learned in public schools once all americans have seen the truth and become my devout followers.
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ID/Creationism is not a scientific theory therefore it should not be taught in science classes.

However, if you wish to teach it in a philosophy class then by all means go ahead. But don't brainwash children into believing that religion and science are the same thing.
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LOL @ its not politically correct to be Christian. Please, come to my school/area sometime and be flooded with the light of jesus. Im embarrased by the amount of Creationists and the extremism of them here. We learned Evolution as theory and they made a point to say that it is not a fact infinite amounts of time. We were also taught about various religions, including Judaism, Bhuddism, Hindu, Islam, Zoroastism(sp?). Of course Christianity was given the majority of the focus, and presented as fact. No I do not attend a christian school, its a public school.
im embarassed to live in the same state with that guy
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im embarassed to live in the same state with that guy
I'm sure he's embarrassed of you too by what he wrote.
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Creationism should not be taught in science class, period.

The only use Darwinian Evolution plays in High School level Biology is to demonstrate the scientific method.

I don't think either should be taught; 1 is not science, and the other is a waste of time in High School Biology.
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Creationism should not be taught in science class, period.

The only use Darwinian Evolution plays in High School level Biology is to demonstrate the scientific method.

I don't think either should be taught; 1 is not science, and the other is a waste of time in High School Biology.
Yea there's definitely easier ways to demonstrate empirical data gathering. A simple observational excercise is all that's needed. Evolution is a more complex scientific theory that probably shouldn't be wasted on highschool freshman. Maybe AP Bio though...
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Really? Because in the CA state text books hardly mention Christianity. We had a decently sized section dedicated to Zoroastrianism too... but Christianity is hardly mentioned... God forbid anyone gets offended

In fact, they define the 10 Commandments as "Guidelines for the followers of Moses"... and Jesus Christ was the "Founder of Christianity", because, of COURSE, if you mention he claimed that he was the son of God, people would go insane and sue the school system.

I would estimate the number of true Christians in my class of 500 at... 5-10 overtly, 50 total, if that.

The number of Christians in my school, with about 900 students, is probably between 800 and 850. What we studied did say that Christians believed Jesus was the son of God.
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I'm sure he's embarrassed of you too by what he wrote.
Not necessarily. Only if he is a fundamentalist. And living in a primarily Christian city/state you have to expect people to be shocked and occasionally upset (cant really think of a better word) that you're an athiest.
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Yea there's definitely easier ways to demonstrate empirical data gathering. A simple observational excercise is all that's needed. Evolution is a more complex scientific theory that probably shouldn't be wasted on highschool freshman. Maybe AP Bio though...
Yea, I'm in AP Bio as a senior and we had an entire unit on evolution.
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Not necessarily. Only if he is a fundamentalist. And living in a primarily Christian city/state you have to expect people to be shocked and occasionally upset (cant really think of a better word) that you're an athiest.
I'm not an atheist...

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Yea, I'm in AP Bio as a senior and we had an entire unit on evolution.
Awesome, keep on learning! Definitely get one of the Princeton books to study for the exam btw, they are awesome.
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most unlikley its not in the requirements of the school district{to my best understanding}

private school though...
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most unlikley its not in the requirements of the school district{to my best understanding}

private school though...
Private school ftw. You don't get idiotic drivel shoved down your throat.
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Awesome, keep on learning! Definitely get one of the Princeton books to study for the exam btw, they are awesome.

Lol I pretty much just dick around in that class and I maintain a B =P

I was happy to see the evolution unit though
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I'm not an atheist...
Re-read what I wrote, thats not what I said.
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