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Old 02-15-2007, 08:44 PM #1
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spool valve or stacked tube YOU DECIDE

THIS IS NOT VS. THREAD. I just want some intelligent reasons why spool valves are more/less advanced than stacked tubes. Include reasons like speed, accuracy, break down, maintanence, and even ease of modding.
Ok so basically make a stand, support it and no flaming please everyone has opinions.

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Old 02-15-2007, 08:45 PM #2
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Spool valves have a huge amount of time needed to break in. That and they used to be a bit funky in cold weather.
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your assuming thats spool valve is better already...thats not neccesarily true
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Old 02-15-2007, 08:48 PM #4
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I like me a good old autococker, but out of those two, I think I'd be a little worried to own a spooler. they have so many o rings that can break, and thus they appear to me to be a little finiky. Sometimes the o-rings are so small its hard to find which one is broken. I know they don't all do this, but every time I go and play, there is always a spool marker or two having trouble with leaks.
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your assuming thats spool valve is better already...thats not neccesarily true
How's that?
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I would go w/ the Stack tube on speed, matance, and disasembly. The spooly gets accuacy, consistancy, and they are still fast. They are both good, just get the gun that suits u...
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I like me a good old autococker, but out of those two, I think I'd be a little worried to own a spooler. they have so many o rings that can break, and thus they appear to me to be a little finiky. Sometimes the o-rings are so small its hard to find which one is broken. I know they don't all do this, but every time I go and play, there is always a spool marker or two having trouble with leaks.
QFT! i agree thats how my pm5 was "it sucked balls" to many freaking o rings to lube and maintain
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I would go w/ the Stack tube on speed, matance, and disasembly. The spooly gets accuacy, consistancy, and they are still fast. They are both good, just get the gun that suits u...
um... they are no more acurate, and probably have a lower cycle rate due to thier opperation, though its faster than any practical speed. a gun is only as consistant as its regulator.
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:20 PM #9
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osrry ishboo but i didnt say tehy were any better? could u please explain how i can across to you that way.

btu nayway now taht we have this started ill throw my 2 cents in. ok i kinda side with spools but there are good and bad with both spools and stacks imo stacks are harder to work with ( getting them set) and are generally taller than spools btu on teh other hand spool are way harder to break down and a bit more tempermental when it comes to bad weather, although not always. accuracy is about the same and speed is too, i have seen fast timmy's and fast trix' alike. stacked tube guns are alot easier to clean ball breaks but i have a nice "mid-end" ,as some people like to claim, ion that never breaks paint and has been used as normal under 13* weather. i personally liek teh feel and maintanence of spools better but tahts not to say i have never before or will ever own a stacked tube gun again.
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well an ego may be a bit taller than a shocker, but I don't think its any taller than a DM7, is it?
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:28 PM #11
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no but as a shocker is at an extreme as far as size goes so is the ego, the statemnet was more of a generalization basically like sayin an ion is shorter than a promaster. no its not shorter than an ego but egos have really raised the bar as far as the size of stacked tube guns goes, as the shocker has to spool valves.
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:30 PM #12
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Stacked.

They will if tuned right have the same, or less kick then a spool valve. Of course that is with the right internals and tuned correctly.

They yeild a higher rof

There effeciency is more

The dissasembly is quite easy.

Just looking at a diagram you understand how the marker works

Very simple maintenance

Only problems i see is they get tall. Nothing though someone couldnt engineer our, of course no one is willing to in paintball.
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:33 PM #13
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I think your making too much of a narrow statement with "stacked tube" I think you mean poppet valve markers as aposed to spool.

Also remember that there are several poppet valve markers such as vikings and angels that are poppet but are triple tubed, side by side stacked tube markers.
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i guess i read it wrong.
oh well.

if you know how to properly take care of a spool valve, it wont have problems.
and things with the weather is mainly people trying to use some new cool lube the ends up sucking. its not that hard to keep a spool working.
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:38 PM #15
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angels arent side by side? they are still stacked tube using teh same design as an impulse/bushy wutever they just us the 3rd tube for electronics i believe? correct em if im wrong. and by stacked tueb gun i mean electropnuematic hammer-hits-a-valve gun but see howuch easier stacked tube is to write
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:40 PM #16
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Typically spool valve markers take cold weather a little harder than poppet because of the increase in friction and the sheer number of o-rings, not to mention all that grease regardless of what it is tends to thicken up a bit in cold weather.
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im a little scared to get a spool valve gun. They have so many damn o rings. I like my popet valve timmy.
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angels arent side by side? they are still stacked tube using teh same design as an impulse/bushy wutever they just us the 3rd tube for electronics i believe? correct em if im wrong. and by stacked tueb gun i mean electropnuematic hammer-hits-a-valve gun but see howuch easier stacked tube is to write

Correct, just wanted to clarify.
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:41 PM #19
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ishboo- i agree with that liek i said i have an ion taht has shot fine in 13* weather, that same day i watched an angel bug out but it think it was coincidence. and ofcourse i watched a timmy shoot fine and a few shocker shoot pathetic so thats all proper upkeep and marker knowledge
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a lot of those orings dont even move though.
and if you relube before playing in the cold, and are actually shooting the gun, then you shouldnt have any problems.
plus if its muddy/rainy you dont have to worry about that actually getting in to your gun
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:43 PM #21
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Alot of the o-rings may not move but they help seal moving parts that rub against them.
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