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Old 01-20-2007, 04:19 PM #1
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epiphany??

is the epiphany just like an ion or no?
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Old 01-20-2007, 04:23 PM #2
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All Metal Structure – As has become standard for high-end markers, the Epiphany's grip frame, receiver, body, feedneck and all major components are of all-metal construction.

Adjustable Volume Fire Chamber - The heart of the Epiphany is the all-new adjustable volume fire chamber - a technology first. Utilizing sized inserts much like The Freak barrel system, a player can tune the volume of air staged behind the Epiphany's bolt. Higher regulator settings and faster valve recharge rates virtually eliminate rapid fire velocity drop off. The result is rock-steady velocity consistency whether the Epiphany Ion is taking a snap-shot or laying out a rope of paint at 15 bps or more.

Super-Light, Fast-Acting Bolt – The Smart Parts Firebolt is a standard feature of the Epiphany. Its light weight allows for super-fast reciprocal operation, increasing potential rate of fire while decreasing vibration. Its efficient design baffles the gas flow delivered to the ball for a gentle push against even the most fragile shells, while allowing a high flow volume for maximum efficiency.

Improved Solenoid Valve and Hosing – An improved solenoid valve keeps the Epiphany Ion consistently responsive over a wider pressure range at both low and high rates of fire.

Magnesium Alloy Body, Grip Frame and Trigger – Olympic class racing bicycle designers utilize magnesium alloys to deliver fantastic strength with minimal weight, and that is what our engineers have done with the Epiphany. The Epiphany grip frame, trigger and body are all manufactured from a state of the art magnesium alloy, making the Epiphany incredibly light with a super-hard chrome based finish. Rubber accent overlays enhance the Epiphany's finished look while providing better grip friction at key points.

Conical Trigger Bearing – The Epiphany Ion's conical trigger bearing is suspended between a pair of adjustable lock screws. This configuration provides a silky smooth trigger pull that is virtually free of side to side movement from start to finish.

Rigid Power Button – A rigid power button in the Epiphany grip frame makes power and Vision mode selection easy, even with gloves on.

Break-Beam Vision – Smart Parts proven break-beam Vision technology protects against paint breakage from mis-feeds.

Epiphany Freak Barrel – The Epiphany version of The Freak barrel is included with its own sculpted back section matching the smooth lines of the Epiphany body. Optional inserts and fronts allow this factory included barrel to adapt to changing paint and game conditions.

Advanced Ergonomic Trigger Position – Extensive research and field testing led to the final shape of the Epiphany grip frame. With its slender profile and thin-wall wraparound grips, this frame places both trigger fingers at a 90 degree angle from the firing plane, within the bounds of an expanded trigger guard for optimal walking.

Three Point Adjustable Trigger - The adjustable Epiphany trigger can be dialed-in to suit any taste. Settings for trigger pre-travel, activation point, and post-travel, may all be fine tuned.

Low Profile Positive-Grip Friction Feedneck – The Epiphany Feedneck is equipped with internal o-rings that give it a positive grip on a wide variety of loader neck sizes. Its solid aluminum construction gives it the durability needed for serious paintball competitors.

Integrated Air Rail - The Epiphany grip’s integrated rail system allows standard dovetail air system accessories to mount directly to the grip frame or use traditional inline mounting screws.

Rail Mounted on/off ASA - Positive air system control means longer o-ring and solenoid life for screw in gas supplies. The easy to clean and rebuild design of the Smart Parts on/off ASA means a lifetime of reliable operation. The integral dovetail mount matches perfectly to the Epiphany grip frame’s integrated air system rail for solid, adapter free mounting.

Standard Barrel Threads – The Epiphany uses the Smart Parts standard barrel thread found on the Shocker NXT, Impulse, Nerve, Ion and SP-8.

Strengths From Its Heritage – The Epiphany is not a replacement for the Ion, it is an advancement of the Ion design philosophy into a new higher performance marker, this means it also has the best features from the Ion:

• Seal Forward Technology – This Smart Parts innovation places the breech seal o-ring in the breech instead of on the bolt, providing a perfect seal against blowback without producing rate of fire limiting bolt-drag.
• True Electropneumatic Design – Just like the original Ion, and all of the Smart Parts lineup, the Epiphany is built on a true electropneumatic design. A precision, fast acting solenoid valve drives the bolt and valve system for unbeatably quick operation with minimal vibration.
• Simple 9-volt Powered Operation – Because of the very low power consumption that true electropneumatic operation provides, the Epiphany's electronics are able to achieve a long operating life from a standard 9-volt alkaline battery.
• 17+ BPS Performance – The standard Epiphany circuit board will deliver rates up to 17 balls per second, while the Blackheart and aftermarket boards can take it to 20 and beyond.
• Most Ion and Epiphany assemblies are interchangeable. Ion owners can upgrade to Epiphany performance by replacing their circuit board, hoses, regulator spring and fire chamber.



Some people just compare it to a better, not plastic ION. You decide.
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Old 01-20-2007, 04:31 PM #3
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yeah pretty much. just upped. uses the same basic internal design.
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Old 01-20-2007, 04:40 PM #4
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body kit?

are they gunna make epiphany body kits soon to make ur ion look like an epiphany?
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Old 01-20-2007, 06:04 PM #5
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yes, SP they said they would put out an upgrade package to upgrade ions to the epiphany
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Old 01-20-2007, 09:20 PM #6
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personally, I don't like the stock epiphany bodies. Can you use ion bodies on the epiphany?
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Old 01-20-2007, 10:53 PM #7
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virtue board

can an ion virtue board fit in an epiphany?
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Old 01-21-2007, 12:34 AM #8
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Old 01-21-2007, 12:57 AM #9
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yes, SP they said they would put out an upgrade package to upgrade ions to the epiphany
So it IS just an ion... using the materials they should have used in the first place isnt designing a new gun, it's fixing the one you ****ed up to begin with. It doesnt need its own forum. All of the technical issues that have been true for the ion will be true for this thing since it is the same thing with a metal shell.
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Old 01-21-2007, 09:31 AM #10
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So it IS just an ion... using the materials they should have used in the first place isnt designing a new gun, it's fixing the one you <del>****</del>ed up to begin with. It doesnt need its own forum. All of the technical issues that have been true for the ion will be true for this thing since it is the same thing with a metal shell.
No, it actually uses different parts and operates at different pressure levels then an Ion.
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Old 01-21-2007, 11:28 AM #11
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No, it actually uses different parts and operates at different pressure levels then an Ion.
QFT ive shot my epiphany on ramping with a virtue and shot an ion with a virtue you can tune the epiphanys much better with the inserts and the operating pressure of the epiphany provides much better performance and no drop off during high rates of fire so stats

Epiphany:Virtue board, Virtue eyes, cp shorty, qlock, ndz detents, V35 Halo b, Dxs 68/45, 360 qev, firebolt

Dwell - 14
Max Rof - Uncapped
Ramp Activation - 5bps
Ramp % - Max Cycle Rate
Input Pressure - 250Psi
Max Bps - 27
Chamber Insert - Green

Conclusion: Had no drop off, Shot a good deal faster, Same kick as ion with stock bolt more than ion with aftermarket bolt but just a tiny bit

Ion: Virtue board, Virtue eyes, cp shorty, qlock, Trinity sick body, Dxs 68/45, Clippard based qev V35 Halo b, Techt l7

Dwell - 14
Dwell - 14
Max Rof - Uncapped
Ramp Activation - 5bps
Ramp % - Max Cycle Rate
Input Pressure - 180Psi
Max Bps - 24
Chamber Insert - N/A

The ion shot well no doubt problem is the epiphany shot much better it had a little less kick than the epi but barely noticable


Conclusion: The Epi really is not just another ion it works much better at high rates of fire however if your just one balling or not walking very fast like 13 14 then your not gunna notice a difference

Again

EPI = NOT AN ION

Hope this helped

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So it IS just an ion... using the materials they should have used in the first place isnt designing a new gun, it's fixing the one you ****ed up to begin with. It doesnt need its own forum. All of the technical issues that have been true for the ion will be true for this thing since it is the same thing with a metal shell.
The firebolt, freak barrel, incredible feeling trigger and frame, adjustable firing chamber, and integrated rail are VERY substantial improvements and fix the only major flaws in very good platform.
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EPI = NOT AN ION
Enough said..

fireitup- Great comparison.
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Old 01-22-2007, 03:52 PM #14
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Enough said..

fireitup- Great comparison.
TY today im seeing how fast my epi can possibly go on full auto and dry firing with a virtue and ill have the vid for you guys but when i get my halo board fixed ill be rippin it w/ some paint for ya
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i nominate fireitup as the "unofficial" epiphany mod good stuff
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i nominate fireitup as the "unofficial" epiphany mod good stuff
lol ty ive already screwed around with this gun soo much
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Old 01-23-2007, 09:07 PM #17
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IONs are BETTER... lighter, more customizable, cheaper, etc...
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Old 01-23-2007, 09:25 PM #18
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HEAVIER
IONs are BETTER... lighter, more customizable, cheaper, etc...
people really have to stop doing this...

i was actualy just figuring this out to build an ion from scratch equivalant to an epiphany it would cost roughly 800-1000 dollars depending on which parts you want
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Old 01-23-2007, 09:28 PM #19
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The epiphany only just came out recently, so "more customizable" isn't really a viable "problem" at this point. The Epi also takes most Ion upgrades and I'm sure there will likely be Epi only upgrades.

The two are not meant for the same audience.
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Old 01-23-2007, 09:41 PM #20
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The epiphany only just came out recently, so "more customizable" isn't really a viable "problem" at this point. The Epi also takes most Ion upgrades and I'm sure there will likely be Epi only upgrades.

The two are not meant for the same audience.
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yeah there are gonna be some really really really nice aftermarket epi triggers i cant wait till they come out with a sling type trigger
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Old 01-25-2007, 08:05 AM #21
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how many freak inserts does the epi come with?
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