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Old 01-13-2007, 11:51 AM #64
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Oh snap! I forgot all about this guy: Mike Vanderjagt
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Old 01-13-2007, 11:51 AM #65
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Old 01-13-2007, 12:43 PM #68
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Freeny did have an off year, I was relatively surprised at that.
He had an off year because offensive lineman are now just practicing and learning to defend the spin move that Freeney uses.

and Ryan Leaf did not live up to the hype for a first rounder
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I dont know if it was that or if it was the fact that they lost both there starting DTs this year and havent really recovered.
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alot of these players I knew would suck, such as culpepper, vick, the edge, and a few other big name stiffs. I thought mario williams would be alot better, he would be my pick.
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I dont know if it was that or if it was the fact that they lost both there starting DTs this year and havent really recovered.
yeah thats true. loosing corey simon was a big hit on our run defense
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He had an off year because offensive lineman are now just practicing and learning to defend the spin move that Freeney uses.

and Ryan Leaf did not live up to the hype for a first rounder
maybe dwight phoney could learn another move and how to play the position and he would be more effective??
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No, Freeny despite being small has a great array of weapons to use. Hes beyond strong so he can bull rush even the bigest tackles, he has amazing quickness in his first step so he can get up field, and of course, once he beats you up field a few times, he uses his spin move to with great effectivness. But when you can double him for an entire game due to lack of another threat or a space eater at DT, he can be neutralized by two lineman.
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E. James.. had 1000 yrds this season but the team sucked..
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definatly Terrell Owens
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oh and Eli Manning for sure
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E. James.. had 1000 yrds this season but the team sucked..
yeah i picked him cause he didn't do as well as he has done, and there was the game w/ his stats bieng something close to 50 yards on 30 carries
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anyone who thinks bush is that good should be banned. i said he's above average. but he'll never be a LT
You are an idiot. Things can change so much from year to year. Last year I heard some people talking about how LT would never be the same back again. And now this year he's ****ing amazing. Maybe this year Bush was restricted, but give him time and he'll be fantastic. Bush is another Marshall Faulk type player, able to rush and receive very well. He'll be better than LT by the end of his career.
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You are an idiot. Things can change so much from year to year. Last year I heard some people talking about how LT would never be the same back again. And now this year he's ****ing amazing. Maybe this year Bush was restricted, but give him time and he'll be fantastic. Bush is another Marshall Faulk type player, able to rush and receive very well. He'll be better than LT by the end of his career.
dont even go near that kind of statement
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easy with that big guy. LT's only been the league for 6 years including this year, hes missed one game his entire career, and thats only the tip of the iceburg. If he keeps this up, he'll have 200 TDs in 12 years. That crushes anything ever been done ever. Lets not put Reggie in the same breath quite yet.
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No, Freeny despite being small has a great array of weapons to use. Hes beyond strong so he can bull rush even the bigest tackles, he has amazing quickness in his first step so he can get up field, and of course, once he beats you up field a few times, he uses his spin move to with great effectivness. But when you can double him for an entire game due to lack of another threat or a space eater at DT, he can be neutralized by two lineman.
no. I witnessed him try to bullrush ogden multiple times today, each time resulted in him being thrown to the turn where his overrated *** belongs.
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You are an idiot. Things can change so much from year to year. Last year I heard some people talking about how LT would never be the same back again. And now this year he's ****ing amazing. Maybe this year Bush was restricted, but give him time and he'll be fantastic. Bush is another Marshall Faulk type player, able to rush and receive very well. He'll be better than LT by the end of his career.
ok, and LT is significantly better than marshall faulk. Bush is also not a good goal line runner, so he will never have the TDs that tomlinson has. I love reggie bush as much as the next guy, but we have to wait and see. A guy like LT or Barry Sanders is one in a million, there isn't a next one of those guys every other draft. Just like every QB is the next marino, or next montana, or next favre.
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