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Old 01-04-2007, 12:22 AM #1
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Installing your Dye Ultralight Frame for the Proto Matrix Rail

The following is a detail of how to install your Dye Ultralight frame. The pictures of disassembly will feature the ultralight frame, however there's nothing diffrent in the steps.


First, get your area prepared; a level surface and the following tools will be nessecary: The allen key set that came with your PMR, Dow 55(optional), pliers, a longer screw than the stock

Here's a picture of the screw I used for the rear of the frame, and seat's fine -- compared to the stock screw which we'll use behind the regulator seat;



Once you have all your tools and a workspace, remove the Hyper2 regulator and the barrel from your PMR.

Once you've done this, use the appropriate allen key to remove the regulator seat from your frame.

Make sure you've got the oring and carefully set this peice aside.

Open the grip frame and remove the solinoid wire and eye ribbon from their respective slots. Remove the forward and rear screws from the frame with the appropriate allen key.


Put your stock frame, trigger, trigger spring, and battery harness in a box. With the body of the rail free, use pliers, and gently remove the trigger seat from the solinoid body. Try to remove any debris that might be caught between the soilnoid and trigger.

Pull the wires for the solinoid and eye ribbon through the top of your Ultralight grip and seat the solinoid ontop of the trigger. Adjust the return and overtravel as nessecary; when seated properly you want things to look something like this;

After you've lined everything up secure the frame to the body using the regulator seat. If it's dried out while you were installing, or looks too clean; use some Dow 55(personally recomended) and you're sure to be leak-free. Install the rear frame screw followed by the front frame screw. Attach the eye ribbon and solinoid wires to the UL board and install your battery as directed by the diagram located inside the grip; secure the stickygrip to the frame.

There you have it, your gatty PMR. For those of you that might not have a manual I decided to include a picture of the trigger adjustment page;



EYE PROBLEM? TRY THIS: http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2036464

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Old 01-04-2007, 12:23 AM #2
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Old 01-04-2007, 12:24 AM #4
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Old 01-04-2007, 12:30 AM #5
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Old 01-04-2007, 12:57 AM #6
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nicely done with this post.

... now i just gutta save up money for that UL frame
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Old 01-04-2007, 01:04 AM #7
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It's stickied... yeah.
It's under the How To's / Modifications heading.

how much you want to bet people will still ask how to install a PMR UL frame?
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Old 01-04-2007, 04:07 PM #8
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Do you know by any chance what size screw I need to get that will work for the rear of the frame and would it be bad to not have a screw in there if i can't find one by this weekend. Thanks and Btw nice post.
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I believe the threads are standard 8-32 (same threads as grip screws)... and eye balling the pic... it looks like about a 1/2 long.
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Old 01-04-2007, 05:02 PM #10
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Old 01-04-2007, 06:44 PM #13
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So you bought another screw for the back? I find the UL frame for PMR ridiculous.

I love matrixes, I love Dye, I believe in their quality, but this is ridiculous.

1) The manual corresponds very little to the PMR UL frame. It's made for other PM's and DM's. They couldn't bother to make another MANUAL.
2) The back screw isn't long enough. Sure I can go to Home Depot and find one, but hold on here. How much did I just pay for this frame? They couldn't check to make sure we had a long enough SCREW?
3) Since this is the frame for PMR's only, was it so hard to match the anodizing? I know it's a nicer finish, but it doesn't look so nice now that my PMR is two toned!
4) I have no clue how to adjust the trigger. The manual is wrong. Even the sticky grip has holes in the wrong place!

Seriously, I realize the PMR is the entry model in Dye's line of markers, but this is ridiculous. Also, if they skimp out like this, little kids who buy this marker will probably not buy another matrix when they are old enough and have the money to buy a high-end marker. Why would they? Lets face it, I like the matrixes the best, but I know there are enough other high end markers that shoot just as well. They will lose customers for life and hinder their future as a company this way.
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Old 01-04-2007, 07:21 PM #14
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So you bought another screw for the back? I find the UL frame for PMR ridiculous.

I love matrixes, I love Dye, I believe in their quality, but this is ridiculous.

1) The manual corresponds very little to the PMR UL frame. It's made for other PM's and DM's. They couldn't bother to make another MANUAL.
2) The back screw isn't long enough. Sure I can go to Home Depot and find one, but hold on here. How much did I just pay for this frame? They couldn't check to make sure we had a long enough SCREW?
3) Since this is the frame for PMR's only, was it so hard to match the anodizing? I know it's a nicer finish, but it doesn't look so nice now that my PMR is two toned!
4) I have no clue how to adjust the trigger. The manual is wrong. Even the sticky grip has holes in the wrong place!

Seriously, I realize the PMR is the entry model in Dye's line of markers, but this is ridiculous. Also, if they skimp out like this, little kids who buy this marker will probably not buy another matrix when they are old enough and have the money to buy a high-end marker. Why would they? Lets face it, I like the matrixes the best, but I know there are enough other high end markers that shoot just as well. They will lose customers for life and hinder their future as a company this way.
This is the first batch of UL frames, they probably messed up a little so chill the **** out. Every company is bound to have problems with new products and assembling them quickly to be shipped out, so take it easy and relax.
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Old 01-04-2007, 07:27 PM #15
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I think this should be stickied.. Nice job!
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Old 01-04-2007, 07:35 PM #16
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how far off is the anno
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Old 01-04-2007, 07:58 PM #17
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I bet if I made enough of a fus about it Dye would reannodize everything or send me a whole new PMR+UL; but the color diffrence dosn't bother me with the early UL frame runs since I want a stormtropper anyways; and it looks fine ninja'd out for now.

I'm not sure why you're having trigger adjust problems, they're the exact same screws every other UL uses and the only grip hole that had a little bit of flash at the bottom was the one for the ASA dovetail; but it works with a little muscle.

The PMR's UL frame dosn't have any problems with it that the DM7 dosn't. If you look at the threads for it, dye included a backscrew that was too short for both markers, and they both have problems fitting in the trigger and both have anno mismatches(In some cases).

Thanks for all the support guys I'm glad to see people appreciate my how-to.
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:32 PM #19
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how far off is the anno
The PMR itself is black dust. The UL has a finer finish. It's also go a bit of a maroon tint.
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This is the first batch of UL frames, they probably messed up a little so chill the **** out. Every company is bound to have problems with new products and assembling them quickly to be shipped out, so take it easy and relax.
There is a difference between a simple mess-up and just simply neglecting.

Either the people at quality control are sleeping, or they just didn't care that whoever buys this frame will not have a screw at the back and a proper manual. These can be spotted in two minutes, and can be fixed in a relatively short time. They didn't simply mess-up but clearly thought, "Oh well..." and pushed the button to produce 10,000 of them.
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had that problem the other day.... thanks now i know what to do
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