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Old 01-08-2007, 11:15 PM #22
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YES........... SP discontinued the Nerve !!!

The Fusion is far superior to any other $400.00 marker !!!

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Old 01-09-2007, 05:15 AM #23
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I don't know about you all but the Fusion I have shoots great. Also, did you all know that Rail vertical ASA's will fit on a Fusion?
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Old 01-09-2007, 09:26 AM #24
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get a PMR sorry fusion is nice but not to the level of the PMR and never get an ion
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:14 AM #25
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The PMR is just an OVER HYPED piece of plastic......

Ion=Pmr

SAME thing.... just a different package!!!

4 out of the 5 PMR's sold at my shop have already come back!!!
(the 5th one was re-sold on e-bay)

Fusions' just fly out of the shop, and haven't been returned for anything other than to buy more paint !!!!

(God I love that 25bps board!!!)

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Old 01-09-2007, 01:12 PM #26
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I just bought a new black V2 fusion and I love it. It is not cheaply made and fired like a dream right out of the box, a much better buy in my opinion over any of the other markers in the same price range
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Old 01-09-2007, 07:02 PM #27
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pick up a January copy of APG has full details, diagrams, and almost everything u want to know bout it. Maye try apg's site too.....(www.actionpursuitgames.com
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Old 01-09-2007, 08:44 PM #28
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get a PMR sorry fusion is nice but not to the level of the PMR and never get an ion
idk what u are talking about because right know my brother is kicking himself in the head for not geting a fusion. He has a pmr with a lucky un1tec barrel and after shooting my green fusion LE he is really wanting to get a fusion, but doesn't want to admit he ran into a investment without the facts and came out with the wrong gun.

but the pmr is also a nice gun. the only thing it has over the fusion is weight but the fusion is already light enough, and the pmr lets you mess with dwell and bps and such. everything else; trigger, feedneck, ect. goes to the fusion.

and the trigger frame for the pmr is not that bad idk what u guys are talking about, it is solid and light.

and dont get a ion. that is a given.
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Old 01-09-2007, 08:48 PM #29
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what Rhino was saying ( i assume) was that dye seemed to imitate the seal forward technology that sp uses in it previous guns. Dye just calls it "boost forward technology"

Hence, same design different name more money because or the three letters D Y E (or P R O T O)
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Old 01-13-2007, 08:23 PM #30
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Hmm I dunno Invert Minis are pretty nice too, but they have a really long preorder line and the first batch had a couple of defective boards that there trying to fix, but otherwise it seems like a really solid marker.
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Old 01-13-2007, 08:33 PM #31
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that'll snap in half if you get hit in the body
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Old 01-13-2007, 09:20 PM #32
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i dont see y everyone bashes the ion its a solid gun

i wish i didnt trade my ion
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Old 01-13-2007, 09:52 PM #33
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the reason why they bash it because 10 year olds that have there mom and dad buy them a ion go and say to people with truely high end guns and say that they waisted there money and that there ion is better because it was 200 dollars. To get it as good as a shocker imo you have to put a new qev,bolt,trigger,feedneck,reg, barrel, board, asa. Thats alot and i would just rather spend all that money on a pm6 or etek.
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Old 01-13-2007, 11:03 PM #34
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i remember when i first got into to paintball that i thought i was the **** cause i got an ion but thats when i didnt know a thing about paintball and i think that u were probaly the same way or simular when u got a ion
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Old 01-13-2007, 11:30 PM #35
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actually i didn't, i knew i was bad didn't brag about having a ion cause i knew they weren't as good as other guns. Just got it because i don't have a lot of money.
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Old 01-13-2007, 11:42 PM #36
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what Rhino was saying ( i assume) was that dye seemed to imitate the seal forward technology that sp uses in it previous guns. Dye just calls it "boost forward technology"

Hence, same design different name more money because or the three letters D Y E (or P R O T O)
boost forward sounds like blow forward like an ion. so the PMR isnt really a spool valve, thats why it doesnt have an LPR like the ion.
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Old 01-17-2007, 03:00 PM #37
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i agree with fds
i have seen people brag about the ions, and seriously,
they think their pro at the first game
when they leave they look like they just been paid to get painted
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Old 01-20-2007, 08:28 PM #38
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If you can wait a little bit, get the Invert Mini. They are the best in the price range
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Old 01-20-2007, 08:40 PM #39
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i bet they are going to push it back until august, now thats what i talk about a late christmas present

I don't see why people like the mini so much, it small ill give it that but as far as i'm concerned u should go back to the mini forum and go loose some orings and fry your board, drain your battery and enjoy your permanent reg.
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Old 01-20-2007, 09:59 PM #40
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boost forward sounds like blow forward like an ion. so the PMR isnt really a spool valve, thats why it doesnt have an LPR like the ion.

an ion has an lpr pmr is a spool valve and spools dont need to have lpr to operate

were u kidding cause u used no dodgy

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Old 01-21-2007, 01:37 AM #41
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with the protos (real protos) and dye guns the lpr serves a different purpose. On the fusion it is used to convert HP to LP to the noid. It is also used to adjust the velocity and all of that.

On a spool valve at least pm/dms the LPR is used to reduce kick/ have your gun shooting at the lowest pressure it can consistently and hpr is used to adjust the velocity and the dwell also has a factor with the kick, effeicency; having the right balance among the dwell,LPR and hpr then your set.
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Old 01-26-2007, 10:58 AM #42
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I don't see why people like the mini so much, it small ill give it that but as far as i'm concerned u should go back to the mini forum and go loose some orings and fry your board, drain your battery and enjoy your permanent reg.
Have you even shot a Mini before? The only time I've seen a reg as consistant as the Minis WITHOUT a break-in period is the time I shot my friends Proto with a 2 Liter. Why fix something that isn't broke?

Back on topic, I'm trying to decide between the Mini and Fusion. Shot both and simply can't decide.
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