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Old 04-03-2013, 08:14 PM #1387
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Originally Posted by SilentBall55 View Post

Breach wear is good? Why not mill the wear area into the breech from the factory and then anodized it so it will look good for the life of the gun. My friends breech wear is showing raw alum and looks stupid for a $1200 gun!

I have a cocker and an old vintage Matrix with so much paint through it, that I gave up counting and no breech wear.

So there is no excuse with all the PE innovations like the zick, pops, cure bolts, Def-Tek, Dual selectable trigger, etc, etc, that breech wear has not been eliminated. It is like never inventing the eye and saying ball chopping is normal.

the answer is not in breach but bolt design.....if you take a look at the techt kush and hush bolt all the excess material is shaved off and O-rings are used so that the bolt does not touch the chamber and breach.... the pooty mod on the cure bolts does the same thing. and honestly the drag difference is very minimal. you can easily get 24-28 bps with these bolts and have better air efficiency over stock. the O-rings also greatly reduce unwanted bolt movement that can increase wear and clip a ball waiting in the stack
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Old 04-07-2013, 10:21 PM #1388
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Old 05-06-2013, 02:28 AM #1389
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Originally Posted by Uziel Gal View Post
I'm not going to argue that breech wear is good, because obviously, it isn't. It could be argued however that it is a consequence of a different design philosophy.

If we were to compare your Matrix to the Ego for instance, the Matrix is running a heavier bolt aligned and separated from the breech by several o-rings. That eliminates direct contact between the bolt and the breech, reducing breech wear, but introduces drag and slows the bolt cycle.

No big issue, as the Matrix wasn't designed to have the absolute highest cycle rate.

Egos on the other hand - even more so in early iterations - were designed with very high cycle rates, and so have short, light bolts with no o-rings. That allows for the cycle rate to be maximised, but does make breech wear more likely.

Basically, if you want the Ego's features and performance characteristics, you have to accept the consequences of that design, or switch to a bolt that runs on o-rings, but accept that there will be some additional drag, and that you'll lose some of the cycle rate that the Ego is known for (though in capped play, that probably isn't going to be an issue).
so this might be old new im just look at it thought so its new to me. so here is thing if you have an internally contained system such as a spool vavle it is in less danger of outside elements such as dirt. so it does have oring but that does lower cycle speeds at all and there is also less breech were cause the is less direct friction. now in the case of most poppit vavle guns they have open bolt with a delron/plastic bolts with no oring not to increase cycle speeds but because the orings would get torn to shreads with the amount of dirt that get in there. there will always be breech wear on an open bolt gun cause it a larger surface area of friction with dirt between the to areas. and if you want to aruge the cycle rate thing why does dm13 cycle just as fast as a ego/boblong etc. of the same year. and thats why the fastest cycling paint gun the karnivor had oring on the bolt.

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Old 05-19-2013, 08:00 PM #1390
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Old 05-21-2013, 01:30 PM #1391
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Which is more solid, rugged, or robust? Which will last longer or take more of a beating?

Axe or Etek 4?
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:30 PM #1392
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Old 05-10-2014, 09:28 AM #1393
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Etek 4 LT beats out the Axe, Etha, PRR, Crossover etc.
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Old 09-29-2014, 11:40 AM #1394
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