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Old 12-20-2006, 04:30 AM #22
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GOD created mankind for the sole purpose of worshipping him and spending time on earth while obeying his laws

those of us who worship only him and obey him will enter paradise

but there are some who are evil and wicked and they shall enter hell


most of us view GOD as wicked by creating hell and sending some ppl into hell

GOD wants all of us to enter paradise and to do good to other people

however some ppl are to ignorant and reject GOD and what he has to offer

and thus enter HELL

GOD doesnt make our choices

we do...

but he does know what well choose
repeat that a few dozen times a day, every sunday, for a few years, and im sure youd like god too.

(brainwashing for the masses)
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Old 12-20-2006, 05:58 AM #23
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repeat that a few dozen times a day, every sunday, for a few years, and im sure youd like god too.

(brainwashing for the masses)
repeat that the earth is billions of years old and that all living kinds evolved from nothing to a rick to living stuff, then to living beings a few dozen times a day for a few years and I'm sure you may believe in evolutionism as well. (brainwashing for the masses - public school system)
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are you calling education brain washing?
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Old 12-20-2006, 06:18 AM #25
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are you calling education brain washing?
when it comes to presenting theory and opinion as undeniable and absolute fact - YES, absolutely.
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nothing is an undeniable and absolute fact. one side has faith, and faith only. the other side has dozens of fields with hundreds of thousands of pieces of evidence to back it up.
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nothing is an undeniable and absolute fact. one side has faith, and faith only. the other side has dozens of fields with hundreds of thousands of pieces of evidence to back it up.
deny it if you wish, but I believe that both sides are faith-based. My faith is in a Creator-God, the other side has faith in an understanding of a science and the men that deduced those theories.
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Old 12-20-2006, 06:27 AM #28
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you are believing in something that was the best guess 2,000 years ago.

my belief is in something that has dozens of fields of study behind it with thousands of years of knowledge to back it up. it may change but that is only because it took something that was thought to be right, and made the correction.
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What would people think of a judge who was all forgiving?

"I don't care if you raped three women. I know you're sorry so hey, have a great day. You're free to go."
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What would people think of a judge who was all forgiving?

"I don't care if you raped three women. I know you're sorry so hey, have a great day. You're free to go."
exactly as I mentioned. in this context, not all forgiving, but He is righteous and Just. woohoo!!
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Public schools teach it yes but Evolutionism is everywhere.
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Public schools teach it yes but Evolutionism is everywhere.
yup - adding to my point.
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Old 12-20-2006, 10:34 AM #33
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deny it if you wish, but I believe that both sides are faith-based. My faith is in a Creator-God, the other side has faith in an understanding of a science and the men that deduced those theories.
You have ONE and only ONE proof that god is real. Evolution has thousands and thousands of facts that will disprove your theory.
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You have ONE and only ONE proof that god is real. Evolution has thousands and thousands of facts that will disprove your theory.
actually, i have no "proofs", just like evolution.
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Old 12-20-2006, 10:44 AM #35
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actually, i have no "proofs", just like evolution.
Now your defense is to get personal, just like every other Christian who gets cornered, your wrong, just admit it.
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You have ONE and only ONE proof that god is real. Evolution has thousands and thousands of facts that will disprove your theory.
why dont you share some of those proofs with me now? O yes, why dont you show me the numerous missing links that have been found? I would love to see it to be honest. The pig tooths that they found that was one of a "missing link", that was a classic. Honestly, the evidence supporting a divine creator far our weighs the possibility that two meteors collided and caused life. By what you state as being a fact, IT CANT BE FACT! NO HUMAN IS ALIVE FROM WHEN IT HAPPENED TO TELL US WHAT REALLY HAPPENED! Therefore you are still estimating, and i promise any arguement given for Evolution, may be counteracted. If evolution started with something very simple, and it evolved to a higher standard of life, how is it that we have Apes still walking around when that whole species should have become man? How come the rest of hte "unevolved" species didnt either Die out or all evolve? If some didnt evolve and only some did, that that makes the arguement that we came from Apes eronius, because why wouldnt everyone evolve? . If you have any arguements, i promise i will not just sit in a corner, and i will give you my opinion and counteract them. I had to stay home from school due to pink eye so ill be here for a while
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Old 12-20-2006, 11:12 AM #37
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Now your defense is to get personal, just like every other Christian who gets cornered, your wrong, just admit it.
Both must be accepted by faith is what he is trying to say, Evolution does not have fact, because it does not take into consideration that the rate of change may not have not always the same, and that the "billions of years" it would take coal to be made, coal could have been created when the earth was created. The evolutionists use Carbon 14 dating to date all there "billions of years old items" but realistically, after 2000 years all the carbon 14 in anything will have eben so small it could not be measured. Carbon 14 loses all accuracy after 2000 years. Again even by that you are saying that the rate of decay was the same and unchanging. For evolution to be correct, many assumptions must be made, again its by faith that you are saying those assumptions are made. Both religions are those of faith, but in my opinion it takes alot more faith to be an evolutionist than a Christian, because there are endless assumptions the evolutionist makes about creation.
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Btw, just wonderin, what do you believe to be the afterlife? In the evolutionists mind, where does man go after he is dead? just curious
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Now your defense is to get personal, just like every other Christian who gets cornered, your wrong, just admit it.
cornered? [insert chuckle here]. sorry, that is just funny. you said I had a "proof", I said I didn't!! there are no proofs for either creation or "evolution". sorry, nothing to admit, but that you seem to still be assuming much.
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Btw, just wonderin, what do you believe to be the afterlife? In the evolutionists mind, where does man go after he is dead? just curious
Ever seen a funeral? The usual place is to lower the body in the ground, although I guess some percent are cremated.
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i agree with guitar guy dude LOL

why do you guys think im implying something i havent said lol
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Old 12-20-2006, 05:57 PM #42
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Btw, just wonderin, what do you believe to be the afterlife? In the evolutionists mind, where does man go after he is dead? just curious
he goes nowhere because there is nothing left.

thats the thing religious people cant get from point a in their brain to point b.
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