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Old 12-17-2006, 11:01 PM #1
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I didn't see this being clearly debated sine I read religion forum. So here's my question: Why did the whole religion changed their teaching about the bible? I mean, when my parents were young, they were taught that all the words of the bible were true story and is really what happened. Now, when you ask a silly question about the bible, you are only told it is a metaphor and nothing else. Did they change their mind about the bible? Is it because they see science is proving some of the stories wrong?

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Old 12-17-2006, 11:13 PM #2
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can you give some examples
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can you give some examples
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You may get a bunch of answers on that one. I think a big reason is lack of understanding. People change things to what makes sense to them. When they don't understand it, they make something to where they can finally say..okay..I'm fine with this.

The bible is more literal than a metaphor. People make things out in the bible to be a metaphor that was actually literal. Then its easier for them to explain. There are metaphors, but not nearly as many as some would say. Science hasn't proven anything wrong. There are arguments as to certain things in the bible, but there's tons of evidence supporting what the bible says.

A lot of the problems and arguments stem from a lack of understanding on how the bible works and was written. Once you understand that stuff more, you can begin to see more things and the problems with the bible fall away. So its not that Christianity has changed its views, but some of the people within it have lessened their grasp of the bible.
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It's mainly a growth in knowledge. More and more people are digging deeper into the Bible trying to figure out all they can, and not just scratching the surface. It's the pursuit of a better understanding and how to relate it more eaily with the world today.
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A lot of the problems and arguments stem from a lack of understanding on how the bible works and was written.
Bingo. Except one problem. No one really knows how the Bible works or how it was written. Essentially no one can declare a defined interpretation of the Bible. It's always debated and speculated. No agreement, no reconciliation, no one doctrine, no faith.
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Science hasn't proven anything wrong. There are arguments as to certain things in the bible, but there's tons of evidence supporting what the bible says.
Evolution isn't proven but think about it, it's much more plausible.
Can I get at least 1 clear evidence please?
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Sure people know. You have to have an overview to understand it. First you examine the immediate text of what you are reading. Check before and after that text. Then check to that particular book. Then to the whole bible. Its not hard at all.

The main themes are agreed upon. Its the lil things that are debated on, and many of those arguments fall away when you study the original languages.
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Evolution isn't proven but think about it, it's much more plausible.
Can I get at least 1 clear evidence please?
How exactly do you see it as being more plausible?
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How exactly do you see it as being more plausible?
Empirical evidence?
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Evolution isn't proven but think about it, it's much more plausible.
Can I get at least 1 clear evidence please?
I'll have to dig the book out and give you specifics, but take for example the story of Moses and the Exodus. The general maps that many people use are actually off a bit when finding the mountain that Moses went to for the 10 commandments and the whole burning bush. The actual mountain is to the south, I believe, and heavily guarded. Up on that mountain is a spot that is burned black by fire. Testing shows it not to be recent fires, but an intense fire from long ago. No other spot like that is found in the area. And it happens to be on that mountain that the bible mentions. Below the mountain there are pillars toppled that match what the bible describes as alters and holding pens for the animals. And not too far off of that is a rock that stands alone in features. Its been hollowed out by water. Its not wind, but water erosion. No other rock in that area has any evidence what-so-ever of that. This is believed to be the rock that Moses struck and water came out of it. And its all where the bible said it would be. Its pretty neat stuff.
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The actual mountain is to the south, I believe, and heavily guarded. Up on that mountain is a spot that is burned black by fire. Testing shows it not to be recent fires, but an intense fire from long ago. No other spot like that is found in the area. And it happens to be on that mountain that the bible mentions. Below the mountain there are pillars toppled that match what the bible describes as alters and holding pens for the animals. And not too far off of that is a rock that stands alone in features. Its been hollowed out by water. Its not wind, but water erosion. No other rock in that area has any evidence what-so-ever of that. This is believed to be the rock that Moses struck and water came out of it. And its all where the bible said it would be. Its pretty neat stuff.
Interesting... source?
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Empirical evidence?
Thats simply sense and visual evidence, and most of it leaves lose ends. Such as why no more apes have evolved into humans.
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Thats simply sense and visual evidence, and most of it leaves lose ends. Such as why no more apes have evolved into humans.
Read. About. Evolution. Please?
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I didn't see this being clearly debated sine I read religion forum. So here's my question: Why did the whole religion changed their teaching about the bible? I mean, when my parents were young, they were taught that all the words of the bible were true story and is really what happened. Now, when you ask a silly question about the bible, you are only told it is a metaphor and nothing else. Did they change their mind about the bible? Is it because they see science is proving some of the stories wrong?

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This has been kind of addressed in several threads, actually. I will say what I believe and then say that many Christians believe at least in part the same way.

The Bible is true and is literal, except when it isn't. sound like a loop hole? nope. the references within the texts and the genre of the manuscripts themselves leave little or no doubt when it is talking about metaphor and analogies.

Jesus specified when he was talking in parable (analogy), as example. The creation and Adam and Ever are not mentioned nor is there context at all to lead me/us to believe that it is a metaphor. I consider it a truth.

another example is the symbology of the apocalypse genre and prophecies within the Bible. The book of revelation and the Book of Daniel, are good examples of that kind of genre. Remember that the Bible isn't just "a book", it is comprised of many "books" and a consolidated work.
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This has been kind of addressed in several threads, actually. I will say what I believe and then say that many Christians believe at least in part the same way.

The Bible is true and is literal, except when it isn't. sound like a loop hole? nope. the references within the tests and the genre of the manuscripts themselves leave little or no doubt when it is talking about metaphor and analogies.

Jesus specifiec when he was talking in parable (analogy), as example. The creation and Adam and Ever are not mentioned nor is there context at all to lead me/us to believe that it is a metaphor. I consider it a truth.

another example is the symbology of the apocalypse genre and prophecies within the Bible. The book of revelation and the Book of Daniel, are good examples of that kind of genre. Remember that the Bible isn't just "a book", it is comprised of many "books" and a consolidated work.
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http://www.baseinstitute.org/photos_sinai.html

Here's some of the photos from some of the explorations. There's also some Red Sea stuff in there. Now this guy has been in some controversy as to his means of getting the evidence. He's stepped on some toes, but his findings are cool.
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No...some, if not most, Christians take the Bible very literally.
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taking a religious book written in ancient times and relating it to the modern times of today is impossible.
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No...some, if not most, Christians take the Bible very literally.
Catholics, according to my theology teacher, take the bible very metaphorically.

EDIT: Shes a Catholic theology teacher BTW.
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