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Old 12-16-2006, 07:42 PM #1
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What about..

I wasn't brought up in any type of church, my parents arent like that. I just started going to youth ( im 16 ) and everyone talks about how they know god is watching them and that they talk to god.

i dont feel any of that

whats up
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Old 12-16-2006, 07:47 PM #2
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nothin much man whats up with you?
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Old 12-16-2006, 07:51 PM #3
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haha. i was reffering to whats up with ME? I find myself going to church ( i think its methodist ) in a youth group, either going to see friends or just to make it look like im a good kid. i used to wear the cross on my neck, but when i got mad i would just take it off and call it bull****. i did take the cross off my neck in class one day and throw it on the floor, and i think i stomped it. i now dont wear it. idk whats up with me.
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Old 12-16-2006, 08:18 PM #4
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Well, it sounds like you don't follow the Christian religion.
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Old 12-16-2006, 08:28 PM #5
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waht religion do you think i should go
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Old 12-16-2006, 08:33 PM #6
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Here's the lowdown: Don't look outside for someplace to go. You're either a good person, or you're not a good person, regardless of what religion you claim to be a member of. If your friends can't accept you as a human being because you aren't being "saved" by Jesus, they probably aren't worth your time.
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Old 12-16-2006, 08:35 PM #7
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waht religion do you think i should go
Sounds like a personal decision to me. I guess which ever one you find the most truth in.
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Old 12-16-2006, 09:00 PM #8
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You don't just choose a religion. You are an individual, with individual morals and values (and you DO have these things, don't let any Christian tell you that just because you are not Christian that you are immoral or lack values), and the religion for you is the one that coincides with these morals and values. Do your research and find one that works. If none does work, then just don't practice religion.

Religion is basically a tool used to get people to be good. If you are just an all around good person, you may not need religion.
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Old 12-16-2006, 09:14 PM #9
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Here's the lowdown: Don't look outside for someplace to go. You're either a good person, or you're not a good person, regardless of what religion you claim to be a member of. If your friends can't accept you as a human being because you aren't being "saved" by Jesus, they probably aren't worth your time.
It is really too bad there are those with a small understanding of Christianity and yet they feel the need to say things that are just incorrect. nobody is "good". there is none good. and most youth/Christians will accept you whether you are "saved" or not. I sugest keep hanging out there and ask more questions about what it is that they are experiencing that you aremissing.
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I take it you are not that familiar with the religion?
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It is really too bad there are those with a small understanding of Christianity and yet they feel the need to say things that are just incorrect. nobody is "good". there is none good. and most youth/Christians will accept you whether you are "saved" or not. I sugest keep hanging out there and ask more questions about what it is that they are experiencing that you aremissing.
I do not understand what he said that was "just incorrect". He made valid points. Spirituality (or lack thereof) should originate within, because that is the most pure derivation of faith (or lack thereof).

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No one is perfect, or "sinless", but don't be ridiculous. What was Mother Theresa? Mother Theresa was good. In fact, I think that is quite the understatement, and is an insult to her accomplishments, to say that she was merely "good". You might want to define was "good" is before you make comments like that.
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You don't just choose a religion. You are an individual, with individual morals and values (and you DO have these things, don't let any Christian tell you that just because you are not Christian that you are immoral or lack values), and the religion for you is the one that coincides with these morals and values. Do your research and find one that works. If none does work, then just don't practice religion.

Religion is basically a tool used to get people to be good. If you are just an all around good person, you may not need religion.
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I do not understand what he said that was "just incorrect". He made valid points. Spirituality (or lack thereof) should originate within, because that is the most pure derivation of faith (or lack thereof).



No one is perfect, or "sinless", but don't be ridiculous. What was Mother Theresa? Mother Theresa was good. In fact, I think that is quite the understatement, and is an insult to her accomplishments, to say that she was merely "good". You might want to define was "good" is before you make comments like that.
goodness, I guess it's in the definition. from a CHristian/Biblical point of view (which was my reference), no mother Theresa was not "good", she may have done good works, but she was not good. and that was my reference.
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waht religion do you think i should go
How about none of the above?

Why do you NEED to have religion? Why must you seak answers outside yourself. Spend that energy you are putting out, on yourself, use it to better your own outlook in life.
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How about none of the above?

Why do you NEED to have religion? Why must you seak answers outside yourself. Spend that energy you are putting out, on yourself, use it to better your own outlook in life.
...what? The energy is worthwhile because religion offers a code to live by and a strong sense of community. why don't you go offroading on an unmarked minefield
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...what? The energy is worthwhile because religion offers a code to live by and a strong sense of community. why don't you go offroading on an unmarked minefield
So you are saying that people are not capable of making up their own code to live by or a strong sense of community without the church/religion?

I will ignore the rest of your mature comment, other than to say...reported.
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So you are saying that people are not capable of making up their own code to live by or a strong sense of community without the church/religion?

I will ignore the rest of your mature comment, other than to say...reported.
No, I am not saying religion is the ONLY source of morals
edit: the minefield comment was out of line but you've said looooads like it yourself
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No, I am not saying religion is the ONLY source of morals
edit: the minefield comment was out of line but you've said looooads like it yourself
Ok, now that you have pointed out its not the only source, meaning there are other venues to fill that need for morals and comunity. Please, answer my orginial point, why do you need religion?
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Ok, now that you have pointed out its not the only source, meaning there are other venues to fill that need for morals and comunity. Please, answer my orginial point, why do you need religion?

Religion can lead impressionable and weak minded people away from destructive activities. Of course it is not a perfect institution that makes everyone a law abiding productive citizen, but I know of peoples lives religion has set in a better direction.
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Religion can lead impressionable and weak minded people away from destructive activities. Of course it is not a perfect institution that makes everyone a law abiding productive citizen, but I know of peoples lives religion has set in a better direction.
and do you think that they could not have done the same, with education and social interaction?
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