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Old 12-10-2006, 12:47 AM #1
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Ok to start this off, i'm not an atheist or anything I am Christian, but I was just wondering, why did satan and his followers turn on God? I thought there was no lust, jealousy, etc in Heaven, but what fueled them?
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Old 12-10-2006, 12:53 AM #2
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good question...I was wondering the same thing...

I know that Satan was prideful and such but never really understood how...since they dont have a sinful nature like us...
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Old 12-10-2006, 01:51 AM #3
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God gave everyone, including angels [Satan a.k.a Lucifer] the opportunity of choice. Just happens to be that Satan used it...in a messed up way.
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where'd the angels come from?
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where do angels and demons go when they die in battle?
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where do angels and demons go when they die in battle?
I have often wondered this too. The conclusion I came to is they are destroyed forever. Otherwise it would be a non-battle at the gates of heaven if they just "respawned" after death. There would be nothing to lose if they died and thus would continue to battle for all eternity.
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I'm pretty sure God ordered all Angels to bow to Adam (gods new creation), and Satan refused to bow to someone lesser then him. So god banished the rebels (satan and his followers) to the depths of the earth (hell).
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I have often wondered this too. The conclusion I came to is they are destroyed forever. Otherwise it would be a non-battle at the gates of heaven if they just "respawned" after death.
Thus, promoting an Atheist's view of an afterlife.

Oh, and btw guys, you can't argue this point out, because it's NOT REAL. Contradiction > the Bible.
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God gave everyone, including angels [Satan a.k.a Lucifer] the opportunity of choice. Just happens to be that Satan used it...in a messed up way.
y'know I am not a vitriolic atheist, but if that's how it happened, it almosts sounds as if the bible is saying,"Free choice is bad kiddies, look how Lucifer ended up!"
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Thus, promoting an Atheist's view of an afterlife.

Oh, and btw guys, you can't argue this point out, because it's NOT REAL. Contradiction > the Bible.
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I have often wondered this too. The conclusion I came to is they are destroyed forever. Otherwise it would be a non-battle at the gates of heaven if they just "respawned" after death. There would be nothing to lose if they died and thus would continue to battle for all eternity.
Not flaming... and yes i am an atheist, i have utter distain for all religion so don't try to change my mind, I was just wondering...if god made everything....who made god? Just wanted to know how the bible tries to explain that one.
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Not flaming... and yes i am an atheist, i have utter distain for all religion so don't try to change my mind, I was just wondering...if god made everything....who made god? Just wanted to know how the bible tries to explain that one.
The Bible doesn't. God's existence is assumed and evidenced.
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how is it evidenced?
Biblical evidences, not scientific. it's about faith, not proofs. I could quote it, but you have already said I can't change your mind, so I won't try.
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Not flaming... and yes i am an atheist, i have utter distain for all religion so don't try to change my mind, I was just wondering...if god made everything....who made god? Just wanted to know how the bible tries to explain that one.
great im glad you hate religion but sorry to pop ur bubble atheism is now a religion of non religion so techincally u having no religion is having a religion congrats now u can go form another belief of no God

and free choice is actually good everything would be mechanical and too fake. free will makes everything true, ur girlfriend or wife you love them cuz of free will and that mushy wierd love feeling fellas is pretty darn awesome
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Not flaming... and yes i am an atheist, i have utter distain for all religion so don't try to change my mind, I was just wondering...if god made everything....who made god? Just wanted to know how the bible tries to explain that one.

god was always there is the way i think of it
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Not flaming... and yes i am an atheist, i have utter distain for all religion so don't try to change my mind, I was just wondering...if god made everything....who made god? Just wanted to know how the bible tries to explain that one.
God is eternal. It shouldn't be too hard to accept since SOMETHING has to be eternal. It's impossible for the universe to have always existed and something must have caused it.
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why did satan and his followers turn on God?
Interesting fact that everyone probably knows.......they say Lucifer (Satan) was God's most prized angel and that he was extremely handsome.
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