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Old 12-07-2006, 10:15 AM #1
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Atheist Apologetics?

So atheists claim that there is no god. What are some of the basic reasons for this?

Is it a lack of evidence? Wouldn't that make you an agnostic?
Or is there a logical inconsistency in the concept of an omnipotent person?

Are you atheist because you don't think there is a god or because you think there can't be one?

Not looking for essays or novels, just short statements please. Let's keep it simple. Not looking to debate, I just want to know where you guys are coming from. After this has progressed for a bit then maybe I'll start talking about some of the points but let's just let the atheists talk for now.
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Old 12-07-2006, 10:25 AM #2
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No evidence. No proof. No miracles. Their lives suck/they believe they got everything they got by their own means.
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Old 12-07-2006, 10:29 AM #3
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Agnostics believe there may be a god...they just dont care....

Athiests believe there is no god...

There is no "proof"...so opinions form
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Old 12-07-2006, 10:32 AM #4
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... but let's just let the atheists talk for now.
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Agnostics believe there may be a god...they just dont care....

Athiests believe there is no god...
I know WHAT they believe. I'm asking why. Let's not assume people just pick and chose something for a trivial reason. I'm sure people have reasons.
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I know WHAT they believe. I'm asking why. Let's not assume people just pick and chose something for a trivial reason. I'm sure people have reasons.
I'm not an athiest, but I believe a lot would agree with what I said. And you did ask for a short response.
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I believe there is no god because there is no reason for a god.

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Old 12-07-2006, 12:40 PM #7
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I consider myself an Atheist because there is absolutely no reason for me to believe in a god. There is not one shred of evidence or logical proof to lead me otherwise.

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I put in a slash for a reason. A lot people don't believe in God because they feel it hasn't done anything to help them.
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I put in a slash for a reason. A lot people don't believe in God because they feel it hasn't done anything to help them.
Statement retracted. Sorry, I apparantly misread.
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Old 12-07-2006, 01:23 PM #11
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"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.'

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However, there is a lack of a compelling reason for belief.
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Old 12-07-2006, 01:26 PM #12
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However, there is a lack of a compelling reason for belief.
On what grounds? The Bible has a lot of evidence in it. Like Jesus was a real guy, there were sudden plagues in Egypt, they believe they know where the Ark is, etc...
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I believe there is no god because there is no reason for a god.

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On what grounds? The Bible has a lot of evidence in it. Like Jesus was a real guy, there were sudden plagues in Egypt, they believe they know where the Ark is, etc...
No, what we have is a book which is itself a collection of stories written by a large amount of people over many centuries, heavily edited to fit the whims and needs of organizations. The bible is no more an authoritative source than Aesops fables.
Even if Jesus was a real person, there is nor evidence that links him as divine.
Egyptian plagues, I need an aditional source for this to have occured before even addressing liklihoods.
Ark. Ok, there may be a boat. Somewhere. Maybe. No one really knows for sure. And it more than likely would never have been able to fit/collect enough of every species to repopulate. Sure, that's evidence.
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I didn't say there's no EVIDENCE of God, I said there's no REASON. Imagine you feel as I do, that there is a scientific, natural explanation for every phenomenon. Why would you need a God?

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I didn't say there's no EVIDENCE of God, I said there's no REASON. Imagine you feel as I do, that there is a scientific, natural explanation for every phenomenon. Why would you need a God?

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What is the explination for the first molecule on the planet??? How can something come from nothing? That goes against the laws of thermodynamics..

So even if one were to believe in the big bang, where did those atoms and molecules come from???

I think we needed God to create the first atom or electron or quark or whatever
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Matter can easily come from "nothing." It's called relativity, check it out.

I'll be the first to admit that there are scientific questions we can't answer... YET. Doesn't mean there ISN'T a scientific answer. 60 years ago people didn't know how genetic information was transferred, but that doesn't mean God was doing it.

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Matter can easily come from "nothing."
From nothing? Or from energy?
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I am atheist because the existence of any god seems implausible.

I find the insistence of any group that they know the truth about any specific gods existence to be completely inexplicable.
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I don't see any evidence for a God, and even if you had evidence for a god, how do you know what god it is. For all you know its Bakufaddeki, the African god of worms during the month a January, not the Christian god.
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What is the explination for the first molecule on the planet??? How can something come from nothing? That goes against the laws of thermodynamics..

So even if one were to believe in the big bang, where did those atoms and molecules come from???

I think we needed God to create the first atom or electron or quark or whatever
Since god is either everything or nothing, god would either have to make the universe out of himself, which would imply a perfect universe and existence. You can't create imperfection out of something truly perfect can you? If god is nothing, then god would have had to create something from "nothing" as well.
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