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Old 12-08-2006, 02:41 PM #43
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You weren't created as a sinner. You were created perfect.
If we were perfect by your standards when we were created, then why do we still sin? Freewill? Then we weren't created perfect if we were given the ability to choose evil things...
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Old 12-08-2006, 02:41 PM #44
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According to literalist Christian theology, God originally created a perfect world - Adam and Eve, the first couple, living together in harmony with every other living creature in the paradisical Garden of Eden. However, we are told, Adam and Eve rebelled against their creator, eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil in defiance of his command, and for their sin they were expelled from Paradise, condemned to live lives of toil, suffering and death. Nor did the repercussions of their deed end there, we are further told. According to the fundamentalists, we all bear the mark of Adam and Eve's original sin and share responsibility for their transgression. We are all inherently sinful beings, trapped in our rebellion, unable to obey God's laws and unable to live up to his uncompromising standard of holiness. Thus, the argument concludes, we can only be saved by trusting in the redemption of Jesus Christ, which God has so generously provided for us.
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Old 12-08-2006, 02:42 PM #45
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Well then neither Adam nor Eve was perfect if they could rebel from their creator, were they?
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Old 12-08-2006, 02:43 PM #46
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If I installed "the perfect lightswitch" and it turned on all the time, but sometimes it would turn itself off on accident, it would hardly be perfect, would it?
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Well then either Adam nor Eve was perfect if they could rebel from their creator, were they?
Very True.
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Also, if the world He created was perfect... Why would it have a tree in it that if the only two people on said world ate from it, they would be doomed to eternal damnation?? Sounds like an awfully unperfect tree to me... Why not change it into an eternal happiness and joy tree?
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When the end comes I picture the souls of those that will be in "hell" will be destroyed forever. The ultimate punishment. Being sent away for all eternity from the Lord. I don't believe that the souls in "hell" will be burning in fire or anything of the sorts. I actaully would picture it being a desolate place with nothingness. Then being destroyed forever. The rest will be next to the Lord warm, happy, and praising Him for all eternity! It will be awesome!
Ahh, the major beef I have with you people. I can be a better person than you, and you can still believe that I deserve something like that.
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Hell's one flaw is it's own creation:
the bible cites that when Lucifer defected, he and cohorts were sent to hell....
why was it there pre-satan?!?!?
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