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Old 12-06-2006, 06:55 PM #1
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Jesus still the reason for the season?

Discuss... How can we still get him back to the center of this holiday. Also for the nonbelievers out there. I am curious if you celebrate Christmas and why you do? Thanks all for sharing your thoughts.
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Old 12-06-2006, 06:56 PM #2
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For me, Christmas is just about giving, receiving and family times.
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Old 12-06-2006, 06:58 PM #3
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Christmas is mainly celebrated by Christians, or kids who wants gift yet do not follow any religion. But the spirit in which the majority celebrate it, Christmas is just for gifts. But most of my family focus on Church going, so it's still alive somewhere(the celebration of his birth)


Also, some speculate that is more likely Jesus was born during Summer.
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yea everyone says jesus couldnt have been born in december because it would be to cold in a manger and it would have been more likely in the summer.

my family is about giving and recieving and spending time with each other, on christmas.
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Old 12-06-2006, 07:05 PM #5
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It used to be alot about Jesus. But, not now. Everyone is too involved in receiving gifts and giving.
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Old 12-06-2006, 07:33 PM #6
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From the very beginning, the Romans mixed paganism with Christianity when Christmas actually became a holiday.

And some speculate Jesus was born in 4AD in Africa! Its crazy!
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yea everyone says jesus couldnt have been born in december because it would be to cold in a manger and it would have been more likely in the summer.
But you have to remember he was born in the Middle East. When it's December here, it's summertime there. Most people don't realize this. I was just thinking about that today.
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Old 12-06-2006, 07:43 PM #8
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Err, I think Israel is north of the equator....
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But you have to remember he was born in the Middle East. When it's December here, it's summertime there. Most people don't realize this. I was just thinking about that today.
Last time I checked, the Middle East was still in the northern hemisphere.

*Beat me to it. Point is, it's still blistering cold there just like it is here in December.



But none of this really matters to me. December 25th is just a date, what's a date by another name? I'm just glad somebody picked a day to celebrate Christmas.

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You're forgetting that it's always summer in the middle east. It's the difference between 100 degrees and 120 degrees.
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December 25 is not said to be the actual birthday of Christ according to Catholics...

The date christmas is on is because it was meant to come over the pagan religions celebration like said above..

It is a date that we put forth to show reverence, not because we actually believe Christ was born on that day.
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December 25 is not said to be the actual birthday of Christ according to Catholics...

The date christmas is on is because it was meant to come over the pagan religions celebration like said above..

It is a date that we put forth to show reverence, not because we actually believe Christ was born on that day.
and because if he worn in fact born in December... Everyone would have been too cold to walk around like they are said to have...
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You're forgetting that it's always summer in the middle east. It's the difference between 100 degrees and 120 degrees.
And when Mary gave birth the Holy Placenta was lost in the sand
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You're forgetting that it's always summer in the middle east. It's the difference between 100 degrees and 120 degrees.
This is why I love MVP. Sure, I was wrong and looked like a moron because my geographic skills are terrible, but he corrects my point and still makes me look right.

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and because if he worn in fact born in December... Everyone would have been too cold to walk around like they are said to have...
Yeah, because ehh, it's just the Son of God...

I don't think they'd use the "It's too cold!" excuse to avoid going to visit God's son.

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The climate of the coastal areas can be very different from that of the mountainous areas, particularly during the winter months. The high mountains in the north, like Mount Hermon in the Golan Heights, can get cold, wet and often snowy and even Jerusalem experiences snow spells every couple of years. The coastal regions, where Tel Aviv and Haifa are located, have a typical Mediterranean climate with cool, rainy winters and hot, dry summers.
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I'm a practicing Christian, but when I think of Christmas I usually just think of getting and giving gifts.
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the closest date historians can come up with is October 11th, 4 AD. and yeah, to clearify an above post, dec. 25 was a big pagan holiday in rome, so the christians, since they would be killed if found worshipping god, celebrated on the same day as the pagans, only to something different. no one could catch them worshiping, since everyone in the roman empire was worshiping as well.

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But you have to remember he was born in the Middle East. When it's December here, it's summertime there. Most people don't realize this. I was just thinking about that today.
The Bible was not written in the western hemisphere. You have got to be joking me.
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For me personally, as a "non-believer", its about family.
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I think it's nice to have a time when everyone exchanges gifts and has family get togethers, whether it's about Jesus or not.

I don't get why it's better if it's because of Jesus.
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I don't get why it's better if it's because of Jesus.
Wouldn't a birthday party be better with the birthday celebrant present
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