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Old 08-20-2016, 07:31 PM #1
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lube?

I use to have a mini(like 8 years ago! lol) I just purchased a axe pro.

Question being in the past i used smart parts sleek lube. But i guess they don't make it anymore? What lube should i be using on this gun. Thanx (feel like a new again)
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Old 08-20-2016, 09:43 PM #2
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I prefer lurker juiced or macdev militia on them.
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Old 08-26-2016, 01:37 PM #3
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The manual says "Teflon or silicone (non-spray only) lubricants designed for o-rings may be used on the bolt area only."

It recommends a paintball specific grease, then mentions specifically, "Empire Vitamin E grease."

Oil is to be used on the regulator only.

This is page 6, section 4.

I use Dow55, which is probably what 90% of the paintball specific lube really is, repackaged and marked up to ridiculous prices. It runs about $5/oz on Amazon.
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Old 08-26-2016, 05:30 PM #4
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The manual says "Teflon or silicone (non-spray only) lubricants designed for o-rings may be used on the bolt area only."

It recommends a paintball specific grease, then mentions specifically, "Empire Vitamin E grease."

Oil is to be used on the regulator only.

This is page 6, section 4.

I use Dow55, which is probably what 90% of the paintball specific lube really is, repackaged and marked up to ridiculous prices. It runs about $5/oz on Amazon.
Dow 55 is not what most of the industry uses. Most of the industry uses dow 33. Dow 55 swells orings and is usually not recommended for the dynamic (moving) components.


Both militia and lurker are silicone base oil lubes with different thickeners.
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Old 08-26-2016, 06:20 PM #5
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You're right on the 33 vs 55. I had my numbers mixed up.
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Old 08-26-2016, 08:37 PM #6
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No worries.

Interestingly, the basic chemistry of dow33 is silicone with a lithium thickener and molybdenum additives. I had a chemical panel done on militia and it is silicone/ lithium as well... as is exalt vitamin G. Tech t gun sav is actually a mineral oil (dinosaur goo) base. The real strange part about it is that the exact same spec from different manufacturers can have radically different performance.
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Old 09-13-2016, 01:48 PM #7
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No worries.

Interestingly, the basic chemistry of dow33 is silicone with a lithium thickener and molybdenum additives. I had a chemical panel done on militia and it is silicone/ lithium as well... as is exalt vitamin G. Tech t gun sav is actually a mineral oil (dinosaur goo) base. The real strange part about it is that the exact same spec from different manufacturers can have radically different performance.
I have read over and over again that Hater Sauce sucks, but I'm unsure why. Any insight? I have an Axe as well, and now I'm thinking I shouldn't go with Hater...
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Old 09-15-2016, 10:21 PM #8
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I have read over and over again that Hater Sauce sucks, but I'm unsure why. Any insight? I have an Axe as well, and now I'm thinking I shouldn't go with Hater...
Problem is that it has a tendency to separate really bad and basically blows through. In the past, I've seen it diesel it's way into the solenoid. Maybe it's better now, but I'm gun shy. I really prefer sticking with silicone based greases in electronic guns too.
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Old 09-18-2016, 11:29 AM #9
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Problem is that it has a tendency to separate really bad and basically blows through. In the past, I've seen it diesel it's way into the solenoid. Maybe it's better now, but I'm gun shy. I really prefer sticking with silicone based greases in electronic guns too.
Thanks for the input. I'll throw out what Hater Sauce I have left and buy somethjng else. Any recommendations?
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Old 09-18-2016, 11:54 AM #10
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I really like macdev militia v2 and lurker juiced.
Awesome, Thanks again. I also wanted to thank you for your stellar advanced tuning thread. It really got my LE PDD shooting like a mofo.
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Old 09-18-2016, 05:05 PM #12
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Old 09-24-2016, 09:52 AM #13
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I still use Dow33 because it's so cheap compared to all the other paintball specific lubes. A large 5oz+ tube is only around $25 and is enough to last for years.
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Problem is that it has a tendency to separate really bad and basically blows through. In the past, I've seen it diesel it's way into the solenoid. Maybe it's better now, but I'm gun shy. I really prefer sticking with silicone based greases in electronic guns too.
It's still like that unfortunately. Especially the part where it seeps into the solenoid.
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