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Old 04-12-2013, 11:00 PM #1
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Emags...

Just wanted to know what the avg price is on a stock emag and what are things to look for when buying one?
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Old 04-13-2013, 12:02 AM #2
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Is this your first mag?


You can get a bone stock emag for $300-$400 but that probably isn't what you're looking for. At that price you're getting a stainless steel twistlock body with a powerfeed (less desirable to some) or a welded centerfeed (not many barrel options). The detentes would be a small nylon nub in the breech. You're also looking at a heavier stainless steel valve that may or may not have the "Level 10" antichop bolt system. Chances are that your "lowers" or frame will be the humpback style, and the software will be older.

For $400-$600 you can get an Emag with an aluminum "ULE" body that takes Angel feednecks, Cocker barrels, and Angel ball detents. You'd have a light aluminum X-Valve, which definitely* has the Level 10 antichop system, and a higher probability of a newer software with more modes and ACE. This mag might have a "warp feed" which uses a traditional hopper but feeds from below.

In the "$600 & UP" club lives the fancy stuff. In this pricerange you'll the private label aluminum bodies with crazy milling, carbonfiber sleeve bodies, the rare AGD factory "X-Mag" unibody, and markers with crazy anodizing. These markers will generally come with an X-Valve with Level 10, XMOD software (the best; a homebrew by LorneCash), and might have "UL" milling in the rail or frame. Expect exceptional hardware all around (i.e. barrels, feednecks, ASAs) as it probably came from a good home.

If you're not a maggot, you might not like some of the quirkier AGD innovations, or at the very least they might just take some time to grow on you. With that in mind I wouldn't suggest looking for a "stock" Emag - something in the middle pricerange is generally more acceptable for someone who shoots poppets or newer spool designs.


Best advice I can give without knowing more?

-If it has Level 10, see if it includes a spacer/shim kit. Foamies too.

-Make sure your tank puts out at least 900psi (probably should be 68ci or bigger too).

-Make sure it includes a charger! It will be a car charger. They can be hard to find and fairly pricey.

-Ask for the software version if it's not listed, it comes up when the marker boots up.

-Ask about the battery! Expensive to replace and can be hard to find. Is it new? Old? OEM? Aftermarket?
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Old 04-13-2013, 12:17 AM #3
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Well, I just picked up a Emag....P/O says it has lvl 10 in it and Doc's Machine autococker threaded barrel adapter. And this will be my very first mag. This is the P/Os picture. What can you tell me from that? It doesn't look like it has the humpback.


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Old 04-13-2013, 12:19 AM #4
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The guy said it shots fine in both modes. And the charger that he has with it works but its not the oem.
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Old 04-13-2013, 12:30 AM #5
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Milled frame, stock Emag rail, R/T Pro or Emag valve, teflon black warp left Emag body, stock R/T Pro or Emag barrel. If it has a Docs breech, it's installed but not pictured. You'll have to check the powertube to see if it's got a Level 10 system, and it will tell you the software version when you power it up.

Gator clips on that charger givin' me the willies.

What'd ya drop on this badboy?
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Old 04-13-2013, 12:33 AM #6
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385.. So it's within what you predicted it would be.
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Old 04-13-2013, 12:36 AM #7
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but it is a emag valve. I just didn't want to post all of the p/os pictures. Oh and are there software upgrades...how many versions where there and where can i find a manual.
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385.. So it's within what you predicted it would be.
Not bad considering the lowers are milled and it has the adapter. Cross your fingers for Level 10, and visit Tunamart.com to get flashed to XMOD 1.8 and pick up a rebuild kit and some parts so you can start tuning.

You set for an HPA tank?
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Old 04-13-2013, 12:48 AM #9
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Yeah I've got a PE HP tank. I'm just gonna try to do some old school balling. I've always wanted a Emag. I'm hoping the best. And what parts will i need to really dig in this? And where can i find some good reads?
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Old 04-13-2013, 01:38 AM #10
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Yeah I've got a PE HP tank. I'm just gonna try to do some old school balling. I've always wanted a Emag. I'm hoping the best. And what parts will i need to really dig in this? And where can i find some good reads?
First thing you're gonna wanna do is join Automags.org for more info. They have articles and guide on setup and tuning, a virtual museum of Airgun Designs Products, and it's a great community all around. You'll find vendors who specify in AGD products, as well as people making all new Automag products. Lots of people willing to help!

You could go a few directions with this marker. No matter what if it doesn't have Level 10, you should get a kit in there ASAP. I'd say it's probably worth it to get your board flashed to XMOD 1.8 which I'm assuming it is not.

Right off the bat many people would "upgrade" to an aluminum body - the low end is roughly $80 for a used AGD ULE body (angel detente and feedneck, 'cocker barrel). The high end would be a rail/body combo that offers the same performance, maybe an extra detente, but really more of a "wow" look (Karta, Shockwave, Phoenix, Dallara, Chord, IT, ect) - you're looking at $200-$400 for many of these bodies and rails.

You might consider looking into an X-valve. For starters, if you don't have a Level 10 bolt kit yet it will include it, but it also reduces the weight of the marker (all aluminum) and looks cleaner. Otherwise it's functionally almost identical to the valve you have there.

Definitely make sure your PE tank is a minimum of 800psi output, but preferably 900+
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