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Old 07-12-2006, 08:32 AM #1
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holy ****, Isreal invades Lebanon

This Gaza thing is going super good for the Isrealis...

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Israeli forces invade Lebanon
Israeli PM calls latest kidnappings 'act of war'
Jul. 12, 2006. 09:07 AM
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BEIRUT - Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers in a cross-border raid Wednesday, triggering an Israeli assault with warplanes, tanks and gunboats striking southern Lebanon as Israeli troops crossed the frontier to hunt for the captives.
Two Lebanese civilians were killed in Israeli air strikes on a bridge in the south, Lebanese security officials said. The pan-Arab satellite TV al-Arabiya station said that at least seven Israeli soldiers were killed in the fighting, and that several more were wounded.

The Israeli army confirmed casualties among the soldiers, but did not comment the reports of possible deaths.

Israeli troops crossed into a southwestern sector of Lebanon, across the border from where the soldiers were seized, trying to keep their captors from moving them deeper into Lebanon, Israeli government security officials said. Hezbollah said it destroyed an Israeli tank as it tried to cross the frontier.

Meanwhile, the Israeli military said it plans to call up several thousand reserve troops and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert called the attack on Israel’s northern border “an act of war.”

Earlier, Olmert called an emergency cabinet meeting and said Lebanese guerrillas would pay a “heavy price” for Wednesday’s attacks.

“These are difficult days for the state of Israel and its citizens,” Olmert said. “There are people ... who are trying to test our resolve. They will fail and they will pay a heavy price for their actions.”

U.S. Assistant Secretary of State David Welsh, on a visit to Cairo, Egypt, said the capture of the two Israeli soldiers was “a very dangerous escalation” that “puts at risk all the effort that are being put forth by many to find a solution to the current situation.”

The capture of the two Israeli soldiers took place amid a bloody standoff between Israel and the Palestinians’ Hamas-led government after Hamas-linked fighters captured another Israeli soldier, 19-year-old Cpl. Gilad Shalit, in a cross-border raid outside the Gaza Strip on June 25.

It was not known whether Hezbollah planned Wednesday’s operation to snatch the two Israelis in co-ordination with Hamas. But one Hamas leader suggested the two groups would co-operate over their demands for a prisoner swap.

“We have proven to this enemy (Israel) that the one option is the release of Palestinian, Lebanese and Arab captives. All captives, without exception,” Osama Hamdan, Hamas’ spokesman in Lebanon, told Al-Jazeera television.

The military arm of the Shiite guerrilla group Hezbollah said in a statement that its fighters captured two Israeli soldiers “on the border with occupied Palestine, fulfilling the promise to liberate its prisoners” held by Israel. In a statement faxed to The Associated Press, the group said “the prisoners have been moved to a safe area.”

Israel’s Defence Ministry confirmed Israeli soldiers were captured, saying the Lebanese government was responsibile for their safety. The military, meanwhile, ordered residents of Israeli towns along the northern border to seek cover in underground bomb shelters.

Jubilant residents of south Beirut, a stronghold of Hezbollah, fired their guns in the air and set off firecrackers for more than an hour after the capture of the Israeli soldiers was announced.

In the main Palestinian refugee camp of Ein el-Hilweh in Sidon, southern Lebanon, Palestinians set fireworks.

Israeli aircraft struck roads, bridges and Hezbollah guerrilla positions in southern Lebanon, apparently aiming to prevent guerrillas from moving the captured soldiers deeper into the country, Lebanese security officials said.

Israeli warplanes struck two bridges over the Litani River deep in southern Lebanon, killing two civilians on the main north-south highway between the port cities of Tyre and Sidon, the officials said.

Israeli jets flew over Sidon and nearby areas and Lebanese army anti-aircraft opened fire at them, the officials said on conditions of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to the media.

The new capture of the soldiers opens a second front for Israel even during its standoff with Hamas in Gaza. An Israeli offensive in Gaza since the capture of Shalit on June 25 has killed at least 60 Palestinians, including nine civilians killed when Israel dropped a quarter-tonne bomb on a house in Gaza City on Wednesday.

Hamas-linked militants have demanded the release of at least some of the estimated 9,000 prisoners held by Israel in exchange for Shalit’s freedom.

But Hamdan’s comments suggested the group may toughen its stance after Hezbollah’s grab of two more soldiers. He said there may be subsequent “coordination and an understanding” between the two groups, suggesting they might co-ordinate their demands.

Israel has carried out several prisoner swaps with Hezbollah in the past to obtain freedom for captures Israelis. These include a January 2004 swap in which an Israeli civilian and the bodies of three Israeli soldiers were exchanged for 436 Arab prisoners and the bodies of 59 Lebanese fighters. In 1985, three Israeli soldiers captured in Lebanon in 1982 were traded for 1,150 Lebanese and Palestinian prisoners.
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Old 07-12-2006, 08:42 AM #2
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Beirut, LEBANON: A Lebanese woman, brandishing guns, jubilates in Beirut's southern suburbs after pro-Iranian Hezbollah fighters captured two Israeli soldiers in south Lebanon, 12 July 2006.

NORTHERN ISRAELI BORDER, ISRAEL: An Israeli mobile artillery unit fires a 155mm shells across the Israeli-Lebanese border 12 July 2006, into southern lebanon following the capture early today of two Israeli soldiers by the Lebanese-based Hezbollah.


ZARIT, Israel: Israeli troops roll along a road near the northern Israeli town of Zar'it close to the Israeli Lebanese border


ZARIT, Israel: An Israeli tank rolls along a road close to the northern Israeli town of Zar'it close to the Israeli-Lebanese border 12 July 2006


ZA CITY, GAZA STRIP - JULY 12: Palestinians search for survivors in the rubble of a three-story building July 12, 2006 in Gaza City, the Gaza Strip


Palestinians gather around a destroyed car after an Israeli attack on the vehicle in Gaza City Wednesday, July 12, 2006
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Its about damn time they stop trying to play nice. The lebanon goverment won't try and work things out, and while I am no fan of isreal, here is to hopeing they just do the job right and wipe lebanon off the map and double the size of isreal in one step.
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World War 3 anyone? Iran, Lebanon, Palestine and quite possibly North Korea versus the USA and our allies. Not to mention fights with terroist countries around Iraq. Could it be the future...? Either way, there goes World Peace thinking for another 20 years or so.
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World War 3 anyone? Iran, Lebanon, Palestine and quite possibly North Korea versus the USA and our allies. Not to mention fights with terroist countries around Iraq. Could it be the future...? Either way, there goes World Peace thinking for another 20 years or so.
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World War 3 anyone? Iran, Lebanon, Palestine and quite possibly North Korea versus the USA and our allies. Not to mention fights with terroist countries around Iraq. Could it be the future...? Either way, there goes World Peace thinking for another 20 years or so.
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this is not good. not good at all. how is starting a war going to help anyone?

we are all so ****ed.
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this is not good. not good at all. how is starting a war going to help anyone?

we are all so ****ed.
I agree with you, I'm a little worried about Americas future.
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World War 3 anyone? Iran, Lebanon, Palestine and quite possibly North Korea versus the USA and our allies. Not to mention fights with terroist countries around Iraq. Could it be the future...? Either way, there goes World Peace thinking for another 20 years or so.
Terrorist countries... By definition, that doesn't work. Sure, there are countries where terrorists come from... one of them is the US. Which "terrorist countries" are you speaking of... Jordan. please.


Oh.. and Palestine and Lebanon are going to attack us how? Terrorists from there may, but in a global war... I think not. You forget that we are talking about countries the size of Maine. Wait... Palestine isn't a country....
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Ok more pictures, Israel destroyed the bridges in Lebanon here is some pictures today.







lebanese soldier screaming at photographer
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Terrorist countries... By definition, that doesn't work. Sure, there are countries where terrorists come from... one of them is the US. Which "terrorist countries" are you speaking of... Jordan. please.


Oh.. and Palestine and Lebanon are going to attack us how? Terrorists from there may, but in a global war... I think not. You forget that we are talking about countries the size of Maine. Wait... Palestine isn't a country....

all of the middle east vs us and israel, not good, we need to distance ourselves out from those sadistic bullies. what the **** are the thinking right now.

japan pre emptive striking north korea? not good.

im not talking about the united states getting invaded and speaking arabic, im talking abotu the loss of life on all sides, on the complete destabilaztion of world order.
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Its about damn time they stop trying to play nice. The lebanon goverment won't try and work things out, and while I am no fan of isreal, here is to hopeing they just do the job right and wipe lebanon off the map and double the size of isreal in one step.
Yeah! **** yeah!

Last I checked, there was no historical evidence anywhere that would possibly suggest that occupying lebanon would be anything but fun times and sunshine all around.

If all the children of Asia formed hands in the shape of a giant dodgy, it still wouldn't even be ****ing close to adequate to cover that statement.

Moving on;

I agree, this is completely ****ed. Things look really bad around the world at the moment
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im sick to my stomach, im not even joking.
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The Lebanon war was equivalent to Vietnam to the US for Israelis. It's a nasty place to fight, it's like us going back to Vietnam it would be insane so this is huge. I'm hoping Israel has learned from it's mistakes in 82 and wipes out Lebanon (south lebanons ok it's christain).
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A Lebanese youth flashes V signs next to the damaged Qassmieh bridge, on the main north-south highway in southern Lebanon on Wednesday, July 12. The bridge was destroyed when Israeli warplanes targeted it.

Israeli artillery stationed on the border prepares to fire into Lebanon July 12.

Lebanese Hizbollah supporters in Beirut celebrate as Hizbollah guerrillas captured two Isreali soldiers in attacks in south Lebanon July 12, 2006. REUTERS/Mohamed Azakir

Lebanese men looking at the remains of Qasmiyeh bridge, hit in an IAF strike Wednesday. (Reuters)

IDF issuing callup orders for reservists

3 soldiers killed, 2 seized in Hezbollah border strike
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The whole region is so ****ing stupid. The US needs to stop supporting Isreal and just abandon the middle east entirely. Every political, terrorist or whatever organization in that area is commited to the doctrine of retard diplomacy. It's like not a single person in that can respond to any kind of provocation without escalation. Seriously think about it

Isreal arrests Hamas millitants.

What does Hamas do? Do cooler heads prevail? No, they kidnap an isreali soldier.

What does Isreal do? Do they respond evenly? No, they apply massive and innapropriate force by bombing the ****ing government of palestine, blowing up bridges and powerplants, and launching a full scale invasion.

What does Lebanon do? Hell those Isreali guys are dicks, they decide to kidnap MORE soldiers and get involved in the conflict because... well just because the opportunity for stupidity presented itself!

And what does Isreal do? **** diplomacy, launch an immediate invasion!

The whole region is so ****ing stupid, it's truly amazing
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The whole region is so ****ing stupid. The US needs to stop supporting Isreal and just abandon the middle east entirely. Every political, terrorist or whatever organization in that area is commited to the doctrine of retard diplomacy. It's like not a single person in that can respond to any kind of provocation without escalation. Seriously think about it

Isreal arrests Hamas millitants.

What does Hamas do? Do cooler heads prevail? No, they kidnap an isreali soldier.

What does Isreal do? Do they respond evenly? No, they apply massive and innapropriate force by bombing the ****ing government of palestine, blowing up bridges and powerplants, and launching a full scale invasion.

What does Lebanon do? Hell those Isreali guys are dicks, they decide to kidnap MORE soldiers and get involved in the conflict because... well just because the opportunity for stupidity presented itself!

And what does Isreal do? **** diplomacy, launch an immediate invasion!

The whole region is so ****ing stupid, it's truly amazing

makes dubya look like nelson mandela.
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makes dubya look like nelson mandela.
Let's not go that far.
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The whole region is so ****ing stupid. The US needs to stop supporting Isreal and just abandon the middle east entirely. Every political, terrorist or whatever organization in that area is commited to the doctrine of retard diplomacy. It's like not a single person in that can respond to any kind of provocation without escalation. Seriously think about it

Isreal arrests Hamas millitants.

What does Hamas do? Do cooler heads prevail? No, they kidnap an isreali soldier.

What does Isreal do? Do they respond evenly? No, they apply massive and innapropriate force by bombing the ****ing government of palestine, blowing up bridges and powerplants, and launching a full scale invasion.

What does Lebanon do? Hell those Isreali guys are dicks, they decide to kidnap MORE soldiers and get involved in the conflict because... well just because the opportunity for stupidity presented itself!

And what does Isreal do? **** diplomacy, launch an immediate invasion!

The whole region is so ****ing stupid, it's truly amazing
You have no idea about the region, stop talking out of your ***. Israel is an investment in the middle east and the US gets a lot out of it. This includes intelligence, an ally in the middle east, access to the best scientists and doctors, pharmaceutical drugs, all the intel architecture is done in israel now, qualcomm celphone chips, weapons & smallarms, and the preservation of the most holy site in the world. The muslims haven't been able to preserve anything except al-aqsa as they feel anything Jewish or Christain is evil and tend to destroy it like Jacobs tomb. The US barely supports it compared to what it used to as the only thing Israel relys on is the m16's which will soon be replaced with the Tavor TAR-21 and the F-16 which Israel modifys every single component on the plane except the radar which is referred to as the F-16i Sufa in Israel. If you want to debate aid, lets talk about germany and japan who we destroyed then gave the money to rebuild or the countless african countrys that haven't paid a penny back to us. At least Israels doing SOMETHING with the money we give them. The problem with you is your so ignorant you figure that cutting aid is going to fix the problems, we rely on other countrys to expand our market and it is one of the main things keeping our economy flowing. Even if the US dropped aid, Israel could of course sell the US technology to China and ally with them.

I'm so sick of you people and this whole "Israels evil because they blew up a bridge omgz" bull****. Did you join greenpeace or save the whale group? Yeah blowing your self up is so much more justified, blame the Israelis for everything and all the problems.
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You have no idea about the region, stop talking out of your ***. Israel is an investment in the middle east and the US gets a lot out of it. This includes intelligence, an ally in the middle east, access to the best scientists and doctors, pharmaceutical drugs, all the intel architecture is done in israel now, qualcomm celphone chips, weapons & smallarms, and the preservation of the most holy site in the world. The muslims haven't been able to preserve anything except al-aqsa as they feel anything Jewish or Christain is evil and tend to destroy it like Jacobs tomb. The US barely supports it compared to what it used to as the only thing Israel relys on is the m16's which will soon be replaced with the Tavor TAR-21 and the F-16 which Israel modifys every single component on the plane except the radar which is referred to as the F-16i Sufa in Israel. If you want to debate aid, lets talk about germany and japan who we destroyed then gave the money to rebuild or the countless african countrys that haven't paid a penny back to us. At least Israels doing SOMETHING with the money we give them. The problem with you is your so ignorant you figure that cutting aid is going to fix the problems, we rely on other countrys to expand our market and it is one of the main things keeping our economy flowing. Even if the US dropped aid, Israel could of course sell the US technology to China and ally with them.

I'm so sick of you people and this whole "Israels evil because they blew up a bridge omgz" bull****. Did you join greenpeace or save the whale group? Yeah blowing your self up is so much more justified, blame the Israelis for everything and all the problems.
yea like start wars, invade other peoples homelands and oppresses and exploits the native population cause god is on their side. dont tell twitch to shut up, he does know what hes talking about.

my countrys tax dollars should not be going to "perserve the most holy site in the world." this is not a christian fan club. my taxdollars should not be going to "protect" some site you deem holy, and have it in turn start a mess.

israel is a borderline fascist authoritorian state. they are government with knee jerk militant reactions, and for all the benefits we get from having an ally in the middle east, having it be israel negates any positive, and in reality makes the situation worse.

and i will blame the israelis, cause they start it. there arrogant "entitled" pricks, basically.

edit, to go even farther, there is a giant difference between a israel, as a state, blowing up a bridge, and one radical, suicide bombing. if you cant see it, your blind.
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World Peace is a pipe dream.
True. But I was kinda hoping that WWIII wouldn't happen anytime soon
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