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Old 10-05-2006, 01:59 AM #1
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Hannity and Combs finally agree on something - Christian Loonies.

http://www.break.com/movies/hannityloon.html

This might be old but I remember seeing it and I just found the video. Good to see Hannity and Combs both gave her both barrels. Freedom of speech is one thing, thanking god for 9/11 and dead soldiers from iraq makes me sick to my stomach. Certain things, such as funerals, weddings, etc. should be protected from crazy zealots like this imho. I don't care if you think somebodies going to hell, but their funeral is neither the time nor the place to protest it.

Anybody think this is totally ok? I don't think I'd necessarily be in favor of banning or restricting it per say, I just find it sad that some people would actually stoop to such a level and make something like this an issue.
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Old 10-05-2006, 02:09 AM #2
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I agree with you 100%

Those people are inconsiderate *******s.
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Old 10-05-2006, 02:32 AM #3
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Theres a follow up too:
http://my.break.com/Media/View.aspx?ContentID=114904

Lady doing the interview gets even more pissed than Hannity and Combs did...wow.
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Old 10-05-2006, 02:37 AM #4
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The issue of freedom of speech is black and white. You either have it, or you don't. Censoring one thing which people find offensive means you can censor anything, anyone finds offensive.

And since I know some jackass is going to post the cliched "yelling fire in a theater" example in an attempt to prove there must be limits on speech; inciting violence and harassment have nothing to do with freedom of speech.

On the issue of these ****ers, they should have all been arrested already for both the charges I listed above + extortion. Not that I mind them being free. The longer they pull this ****, the greater the chance of someone getting pissed & killing the whole lot of them.

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I hate them and wish somebody would kill them, but damnit... they have the right to act that way.
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The First Amendment does not protect the use of speech or written language that is deemed offensive or damaging to affected parties (slander/libel/profanity).
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They got shut down by The Man awhile ago... yes, they still meet together, but they can no longer demonstrate at funerals or anything like that. +1 for the government.

People like Fred Phelps and crew make me unreasonably angry. The reason being, they're so goddamn public with their bull**** that now I have to go around asserting that "not all Christians are like that." It should go without saying, but thanks Fred, now I have to say it. You *******.

I knew a guy who knew a guy that knew where Phelps lived. I asked if he'd slash Phelps' tires. He said he'd try. I don't know what came of that.
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The First Amendment does not protect the use of speech or written language that is deemed offensive or damaging to affected parties (slander/libel/profanity).
aka dusturbing the peace
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I don't understand why they would interview such a obviously schizophrenic person.
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My only hope is that one day, A patroitic american gets sick of that group, and with the love of his country and his fellow mankind, takes that cluster of animals out.

They arn't human, they have no humanity, they are just rabid animals feeding on the underbelly of america. They need to have their citizenship removed, then be hung as trators to the human race for what they spew.
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I don't understand why they would interview such a obviously schizophrenic person.
The lunatic Fred Phelps had said his "CHURCH" was going to protest the Amish funerals UNLESS he was allowed to get his "message" out on National Television.

Why? Because they hate the GOVENOR, who is gay, and say he will probobly attend.

What does that have to do with Amish school children? Nothing. Fred Phelps was using blackmail to get what he wants.

I like Hannity, but I don't agree with him caving in to Fred Plelps blackmail, and having him on his show.

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I like Hannity, but I don't agree with him caving in to Fred Plelps blackmail, and having him on his show.
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I don't know, the didn't look much better after going on Hannities show.
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I don't know, the didn't look much better after going on Hannities show.
I agree, but thats not the problem.
The problem is that a sicko like Phelps can force a major network to air his propaganda just by threatening to do something offensive if they don't.

All that does is show Phelps that he can do that over, and over again. He KNOWS he looks like a fool. I'm convinced his whole "church" is just some sort of money laundering, racketeering, extorsion scam. His antics exist merely to cover that up.

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The First Amendment does not protect the use of speech or written language that is deemed offensive or damaging to affected parties (slander/libel/profanity).
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It is my personal belief that their action was a protest against the government through the people they deemed evidence of the government's bad action in their belief.
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The First Amendment does not protect the use of speech or written language that is deemed offensive or damaging to affected parties (slander/libel/profanity).
Offensive is a subjective term and has nothing to do with slander.
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Offensive is a subjective term and has nothing to do with slander.
Yeah, they technically aren't slandering anyone, they are adressing a group as a whole. And they get proper permits and everything.

Their church has been bombed several times, and people are trying to take their children away, as well.

Someone will eventually kill the lot of them, or find them guilty of something. What they do is wrong, but I don't take offense because I feel that it's not worth the waste of thought, or air, for that matter.
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They got shut down by The Man awhile ago... yes, they still meet together, but they can no longer demonstrate at funerals or anything like that. +1 for the government.

People like Fred Phelps and crew make me unreasonably angry. The reason being, they're so goddamn public with their bull**** that now I have to go around asserting that "not all Christians are like that." It should go without saying, but thanks Fred, now I have to say it. You *******.

I knew a guy who knew a guy that knew where Phelps lived. I asked if he'd slash Phelps' tires. He said he'd try. I don't know what came of that.
Unfortunately, that's not true. They happen to be coming to a town near mine this Saturday to protest a funeral. http://www.kfdm.com/engine.pl?statio...ormat=%M+%e,%Y
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I coulda sworn they made the law... but...

Eh, I'll believe you. Whatever happened to the biker gang that used to follow them around?
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I coulda sworn they made the law... but...

Eh, I'll believe you. Whatever happened to the biker gang that used to follow them around?
They did, the freeks have to stay X yards away (I think its 500) from the thing.
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Offensive is a subjective term and has nothing to do with slander.
No it doesn't, did I say that? I guess I wasn't very clear. The Gov deemed it offensive (so do I) to those at the funeral which is why the 500 feet thing.

Edit: I mentioned slander, libel and profanity of examples of 'speech' not protected under the First Ammendment. This is another example of people abusing their 1st A. rights to hurt other people.
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My point is that once you restrict speech because someone finds it "offensive", it can no longer be called "free". You do not have the right to not have your feelings hurt.

The grey area is between harassment and simple "offensiveness".

The FCC's legal existence does not mean that what they do is in accordance with the principle of free speech.
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