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Old 10-01-2006, 04:50 PM #43
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Im still confused about how that blew through everythign it did and out the shell. Show us pics of the firing chamber and rear donut.

Those pics really dont prove anythign other than you have a broken bolt (which is somewhat vommon with those) and a shell with a hole in it.
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Old 10-01-2006, 04:50 PM #44
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he couldnt sue SP

he was useing an orange bolt and that ultimatly caused it
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Old 10-01-2006, 04:50 PM #45
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I think the lawsuit will now be switched over to Orange Paintball, that looks like it was caused by a flaw in the construction of the bolt. It was probably just a bad bolt, but I would talk to Orange about it, that's really weird.
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Well, either the bolt is too long, or the bolt stop snapped...

Ultimatly, you could never do anything to smartparts because the gun was not as it left their facilities. You have a different bolt than the one that they place inside of the gun causing this to happen. It is your fault and probably some or orange paintball's.
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Old 10-01-2006, 05:28 PM #47
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and here foks are more pics and look at the uni bolt.... that's what went out the back... sikk50 yeah I talked to dude and he does have a welt and is fine. I am gonna try to find the bolt tail and body back later. I will post pics if I find them
In your first post it says your Ion is all stock. Thats a nice stock bolt!
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Looks as though the epoxy that probably holds the metal bolt tail to the the carbon fiber stem failed. Perhaps this is why orange ditched this particular design???
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Old 10-01-2006, 06:02 PM #49
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Your quick......

To put it simple they broke and if they didnt do that most of them performed like ****.
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my orange bolt that was like this one worked awsome ....


oh yeah it had some minor mods
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Old 10-01-2006, 06:39 PM #51
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I just realized how amazing ions are. It's kinda like a surprise evertime you use them. You never know what kinda problems are going to occur.
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Old 10-01-2006, 06:59 PM #52
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it looks like were the tail of the o-rings would be flew off an dwent throught the dounut and shell and almost poked an eye out

in this case

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Old 10-01-2006, 07:16 PM #53
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i don't think there is a law suit here. think about it, it was all almost a cuwinicidence (i know i cant spell) until u have proof off this happening more than once u dont have any thing. also the orange bolt was not designed to break it was just one bad bolt out of how many
that is just what i see
for all we know u broke the bolt and butchered the body. there just isnt enough hard evidence
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Old 10-01-2006, 07:18 PM #54
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Orange being a German company would probably be rather expensive to sue, I don't think they even have a customer service center in the US and all their defective products have to be sent back to Germany for exchange at the customer's expense.

Unless someone got seriously hurt (where there would be a substantial payout in medical costs alone) the legal fees would probably exceed any award.

Don't know how you could state it was all stock when you had not only an aftermarket bolt in there, but a notorious bolt that had a reputation for breaking.
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Old 10-01-2006, 07:30 PM #55
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what is that white stuff in the back
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Old 10-01-2006, 07:31 PM #56
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yeah sum1 told me that those bolts hasd a warning may explode

probably not a reliable source, but you couldnt sue sp also because i believe that if you put any other company's products into your ion but sp's, it voids your warranty (correct me if im wrong)
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SP voids the warranty for just about any aftermarket product put in it.

Legally though the warranty is not the issue, it would appear that Orange would have been liable for the defective product that could have seriously hurt someone.

Not much options for this guy though, I remember reading on this forum about a year ago when these bolts started breaking every week that Orange was telling people they would have to send the broken pieces back to Germany for an exchange. Good luck trying to get them to cover the cost for a new body and/or firing can.
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Old 10-01-2006, 08:09 PM #58
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my orange bolt that was like this one worked awsome ....


oh yeah it had some minor mods

haha your bolt (sold to me) leaked, sorry to steal this guys thread (not really) but yeah do you think if I replaced the O rings it would help?
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Carbon fiber was weak around the back portion probably. It must have been a really bad batch because ~180psi is pretty low to snap carbonfiber. Did it snap or that aluminum thing blow off?
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i think the word "shens" is funny. so i'm going to give it a try... shens.
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Someone posted above saying that he cut the body and broke the bolt on perpose. Why would someone do that?? That is the stupidist thing I've ever heard. Why are all of yaw against this guy??
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Someone posted above saying that he cut the body and broke the bolt on perpose. Why would someone do that?? That is the stupidist thing I've ever heard. Why are all of yaw against this guy??
Well he could say to people, "Hey look, I made a thread and over 60 people posted!!"
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