[Bleachednblonde (Banned)]

Originally Posted by Bobeo

Hey, give me your read on this situation. Not a problem at all, just want opinions.

This girl who I have been gaming was talking to me in class yesterday along with a couple other people. We usually have a good 1/2 hour at the end of the day to just chill in this class.

Anyways, the subject of parties comes up. I always bust this girl because she doesn;'t like going to parties thrown by kids from our school. She says they are boring, etc. I always joke with her about it- her being anti-social and whatnot.

Anyways, for whatever reason she starts talking about how she loves to go to parties because she loves making out. Now, I am pretty sure this girl is into me, but that isn't the point. Who the **** starts talking about how much they love to make out with random guys at parties?

Thinking about it now, I think it might've been a way to demonstrate higher value to me, saying that she is attractive enough for this to happen. Often times she will tell me that she can't wait to go on vacation or whereever because there will be so many hot guys.

Anyways, I simply sat there as she was saying this thinking: what the **** is this? If this is her game, how does my game sound? Do I sound like such a jackass? I hope not.

It this was her game, it had the completely wrong effect. It got me a little pissed off (I get jealous easily- not her fault at all) and it made her sound sort of ****ty. Sure, I am all for making out with random people, but I have a double standard. Guys can do it, girls can't. I don't care how unfair it is. And then at least be discreet about it.

Oh well. Just thought I'd share. I am still attracted to her but I was just think what the **** is up with this.

OK, new story. Today, while getting my haircut, the stylist named Carrie cut my hair. I would consider her an 8. Great face, short black hair, a little too thin but no one is perfect. I would consider her an 8. Anyways, I could've swore she was flirting with me. I of course flirted back. It was pretty fun, actually, sitting there thinking/knowing that she was attracted to me enough to flirt. An ego boost I guess.

Anyways, call me a ***** if you will, but I don't make any kind of close at all. I talked myself out of it. The main thing was I am a senior in highschool, age 18. This girl must've been 21-22. Why would she want to give me her phone number? Flirting is one thing. Giving a number is another all together.

Also, I realized that these people work for tips. While this was more of an excuse than a legit reason to not make a move, it is true. I don't really believe it though.

Well, I guess you can say that I still have a long way to go, a very long way, but I feel that I can now be comsidered at least a reformed average frustrated chump.

EDIT: HOLY ****! I need to lay off the "enter" key. Sorry fellas

It's her failed attempt to demonstrate higher value. I'd laugh it off. You could neg her but it sounds like she's already trying to prove herself to you and she may get defensive. Instead i'd blow it off or have fun with it.

"yea i love to make out with guys at parties."

"haha oh really? Well that's good you should probably get some practice because you're going to have to be a pro to impress me."

"Who says i'm going to try to impress you?"

"haha oh you're too cute." smile and walk away.


Listen i used to label girls whores because of things they did but then i got to thinking. In all honesty, i believe about 80% of single women in my age range, will give it up in one night if a guy with good enough game came along. Now does that mean that 80% of the girls are whores... or that 80% of can be seduced? I believe it's the 2nd choice. Now more attractive women are going to get more male attention. So if a girl is very social and is out alot... how many guys like me has she met? She may have met quite a few guys who have just swept her off her feet and had sex with her... so that doesn't really make her a whore... she's just catching bigger fish than most women. 2nd of all it's rare to find a girl who truly enjoys sex. Most young women do it because they are pressured or because they feel they have to. Not alot of women out there are like, "hell yea i can't wait to get ****ed!" So when you find a woman like that you get her tested and if she's clean... who cares if she loves sex! Just keep her happy and she wont' stray!

Bottom line... you can't simply label a woman a ****, it's more complicated than that.

Originally Posted by P8ntLife189

Ok i need help ASAP

this chick from my school, has a bf, but we both kinda have a thing for eachother, and she txt's me and says, her bf dumped her, how in gods name do i handle this

Go back a few pages... i've answered a question just like that within the last 5 pages about how to game a girl who's distraught over another guy

[RunningWithSheep]

Originally Posted by Bobeo

Dude, just tell yourself that you are the prize. You just need some confidence.

Think about it. Will she think a boy is weird for talking to her? No. This isn't kindergarten. Maybe if you started grinding her yes, but talking to her? No.

One thing that helps my confidense is if I act very cocky when meeting a girl. Maybe a little too cocky but it helps me open sets. For example, if there was a girl I wanted to meet and she walked past and said excuse me, I would've said something to the point of "Wow, you don't even know my name and you are bossing me around." Do this with a nice big smile to let her know you are joking. I can almost guarantee she will laugh. Then follow it up with "by the way, my name is _____."

Then take it from there. You have engaged in conversation with her, you know her name now, she knows yours. You can take it from there.

For example, last night I went to a school play with this girl. In order to make her a little jealous and at the same time meet new women, I introduced myself to all of her friends. They would walk up to her and begin talking. At some point I would simply interject saying that it was rude she hadn't introduced us (jokingly).

You see? In my mind when doing this, I am the prize. The girl is fortunate that I am talking to her because I am the prize. It helps me at least.

Originally Posted by Iannh

ya dude. theres two reasons not to go to friends. for one, they lie. they ARE going to tell they're friends. two, and i'm not trying to b mean but...., its kind of the ***** way out. if u no wut i mean. i've talked to all my friends that are girls and they all say that being asked out in person is 100% better then being asked out through a friend or on aim or on the phone or something.

i agree with bleachedandblonde they say that you just have to sack up and do it. theres no easy way to do it. and u'll nvr get over the feeling of nervousness but u WILL get USED to it. again, i agree with bleachedandblonde on that one.


finally, i agree with bobeo when he says that you have to be to confident and kind of a dick. but don't be mean. girls like *******s. women don't. if ur in like 8 grade, they like *******s. as soon as u get out of highschool, they hate *******s. they like confident guys.

best of luck buddy, definitely pm me when u do it. i'm pullin for u.

Thanks guys, I really appreciate the support. Also, keep in mind I know her name, and she *might* know mine since we have a class together. Just to clear up any confusion, so it might be kind of weird if I'm like "Hi I'm Alex, what's your name?" since it's been a while since the beginning of the year. My other predicament is actually finding an opportunity when she's not surrounded by friends/not in a hurry. She basically comes to school, goes to her first class right away, and at dismissal she leaves pretty quickly as her ride is almost always waiting for her, and if it's not she'll be on her phone. She has a different lunch period than me, so it will be damn hard for me to be able to talk to her. Meh, I'll think of something. Or one of you guys will .


Note: It may sound like it, but I don't stalk her. I just happen to see her a lot during the day.

[Bleachednblonde (Banned)]

Originally Posted by RunningWithSheep

Thanks guys, I really appreciate the support. Also, keep in mind I know her name, and she *might* know mine since we have a class together. Just to clear up any confusion, so it might be kind of weird if I'm like "Hi I'm Alex, what's your name?" since it's been a while since the beginning of the year. My other predicament is actually finding an opportunity when she's not surrounded by friends/not in a hurry. She basically comes to school, goes to her first class right away, and at dismissal she leaves pretty quickly as her ride is almost always waiting for her, and if it's not she'll be on her phone. She has a different lunch period than me, so it will be damn hard for me to be able to talk to her. Meh, I'll think of something. Or one of you guys will .


Note: It may sound like it, but I don't stalk her. I just happen to see her a lot during the day.

Then open one of her friends first and transition into talking to her.

[EvilTrix]

don't know why i am posting this here, guess it is the closest thing to a blog or something...

I've had the same girlfriend for about six months. I've had three girlfriends in my life, one for two years, one for eight months, and then this one.

She is a very nice girl, maybe not the most attractive girl in the world, has put on a little weight since I have met her, but she is a sweetheart. She comes from a torn home, all the other boys she has dated have been from some place where they keep the kids no body wants (no joke, like where 'bad boys' go).

Whenever I go anywhere, I am always looking at other girls. I have a decent amount of female friends, and two of them decided to fool around with me while I was sleeping...So, I guess I cheated on her before by receiving a hand job while I was sleeping. I woke up of course, and they wanted to suck me off but I said no.

I've never been very content with what I have in my life, I constantly try to change and to grow. This girlfriend is severely attached to me, but she is two years younger than I am...she is 17. I feel it is simply because of her age is the reason she is so attached. She told me when she thinks about not having me, she thinks about the hole there would be in her life.

I have depression and do not take anything for it. It usually just hits me at night, and I feel incredibly lonely or worthless. I want to be with anyone.

I know if I break up with this girl (I have broke up with one girl before...she claimed she was committing suicide, cops came, she lied, crazy crazy etc) I WILL miss her. But then again, sometimes I just want to be alone or with someone else.

Do I just like girls for the thrill of meeting new ones and learning about them, then simply getting tired and saying **** it?

What should I do about my current girlfriend? I don't want to hurt her at all...

[Bleachednblonde (Banned)]

Originally Posted by EvilTrix

don't know why i am posting this here, guess it is the closest thing to a blog or something...

I've had the same girlfriend for about six months. I've had three girlfriends in my life, one for two years, one for eight months, and then this one.

She is a very nice girl, maybe not the most attractive girl in the world, has put on a little weight since I have met her, but she is a sweetheart. She comes from a torn home, all the other boys she has dated have been from some place where they keep the kids no body wants (no joke, like where 'bad boys' go).

Whenever I go anywhere, I am always looking at other girls. I have a decent amount of female friends, and two of them decided to fool around with me while I was sleeping...So, I guess I cheated on her before by receiving a hand job while I was sleeping. I woke up of course, and they wanted to suck me off but I said no.

I've never been very content with what I have in my life, I constantly try to change and to grow. This girlfriend is severely attached to me, but she is two years younger than I am...she is 17. I feel it is simply because of her age is the reason she is so attached. She told me when she thinks about not having me, she thinks about the hole there would be in her life.

I have depression and do not take anything for it. It usually just hits me at night, and I feel incredibly lonely or worthless. I want to be with anyone.

I know if I break up with this girl (I have broke up with one girl before...she claimed she was committing suicide, cops came, she lied, crazy crazy etc) I WILL miss her. But then again, sometimes I just want to be alone or with someone else.

Do I just like girls for the thrill of meeting new ones and learning about them, then simply getting tired and saying **** it?

What should I do about my current girlfriend? I don't want to hurt her at all...

Wow dude... after reading that... seriously you ARE me a few years ago!!! 100% I'm almost positive you love the thrill of life. You are always looking for something just a little better then what you have. You're never satisfied with what you have in life and people try to tell you that's a bad thing right? But it's not, you're always striving for something better but at the same time you're not heartless!

Listen you are not going to be happy with an average girl... you need to be free and live your life. You just haven't realized your potential yet. You're attitude is that of a true Pick up artist.

[Oracle (Banned)]

2001st post YES!

me and my girl havent talked on the phone for a week (distant relationship) she has swimming i have basketball, what should we do to work this out (my mom wont let me talk on the phone till after 7) help me please.

[|Simplicity|]

Originally Posted by Bleachednblonde

Listen you are not going to be happy with an average girl... you need to be free and live your life. You just haven't realized your potential yet. You're attitude is that of a true Pick up artist.

I had once the same problem, but i came over it, i used to hit on a girl, and realize that since i got her, i can get someone else. I used to find it terribly unattractive when a girl would come to me. I needed to do my own work and w.e
there was just about to be a huge fight down at some party and my brother was involved so my head is spinning.

[P8ntLife189]

Originally Posted by P8ntLife189

Disclaimer, the following problem could be labeled as stupid and emo, if you are "that kid" who flames people for **** like this dont read it and just move on, if you think your mature enough not to be a dick than read it, thanks


So I met this girl in July of this year, her names Bianca, I already knew her from 8th grade (im now in 11th) and we were friends, tried going out but she was more mature than i was and it ultimately failed in like a week (yah i knw) but this summer we met up again and hit it off really good, i found out she has a bf, at that time they would have been going out for about 9 months, so im like w/e we'll see where this goes, all in all we basically fell for eachother, but she wouldnt dump the bf, and i got impatient and confronted her one day and basically said, this is really weird for me that you're still with john, but you act like your with me, whats going on, i dont want to be led on, and she freaked out, got pretty mad and that was fight #1, it was all downhill from there. But we stayed really good friends but it was a really weird friendship, cuz it honestly seemed like we were going out, i saw her like every day of the week, she slept over alot, my moms insane and lets her sleep in my room with me, but we had never had sex she refused to do anything more than like 2nd base cause of the bf, now the bf is a total dickhead, he doesnt do anything for her, and treats her like ****, shes his gf when its convenient for him, and she thinks this kids the best thing in the world, also when she started going out with this kid, she just ended an almost 2 year relationship, so the bf (john) was basically a rebound

time passes by, we stay really close, get into a couple more little fights that i just let go because i was scared if i told her how reality is, she'd ditch me and ide lose the chance i still thought i had, the boyfriend has now cheated on her, but i wasnt very sympathetic, considering that she already cheated on him with me, and lies to him weekly saying shes with a friend (insert a girls name) but shes really with me, so i ask her one morning point blank, go out with me, and she says no (continues to kiss me) and i go wait wait why, she replys she doesnt want to mess with our friendship, i go...friends? not many of my friends have me mounted and are kissing me...she couldnt reply, but she basically said no

times passes by its now like last week haha, and her and bf are broken up, and heres why...they got into a fight, he said he couldnt trust her, but they made up, then had sex, and no lie, 10 minutes afterwards, he dumps her, conclusion...yes we all know, this kid used her for sex, and dumped her, she got ****ed over big time, and i was there to pick up the pieces, couple days later he shows up at her house, she calls and tells me, i say...ill be over in 10 minutes, and so i show up, fully wanting to fight this kid, and she comes outside, and tells me to get off her property, i said bianca seriously wat are you doing with yourself, she didnt wanna listen, that night we got into a big fight where i told her how reality is, that her bf is a scum bag who doesnt give a ****, and how shes a cheater and liar, and how sometimes i feel like i cant trust her because of that, and she snapped, we were done talking for a day or so, and i begged her to talk to me, and she forgave me, but she didnt forget, its now like 2 days ago, and she says to me..."im going back to john" and i reply "good luck, see ya round" she calls me swearing at me and **** asking what the **** my problem was, i said hey listen its me or john, im not going to be part of these lies anymore, its not right to anyone involved, she says she only wants to be friends and that i should just be happy with that, i said no, we cant be just friends, i have feelings for you that get in the way of us being friends, it wont work, its me or john, you cant have your cake and eat it to, cause if i went back to the friends thing, it'd be me and her together alot, and she'd just lie to john about what she was doing, i couldnt take it, it was to weird, so i jsut told her straight up, you gotta make a choice, she picked john, so we're done talking,

but i feel like **** right now guys, like did i do anything wrong here? seriously i feel like ****, i feel empty, depressed, confused about whats gunna happen to me, cause honestly i dont know what to do with my life at this point, i dunno shes just some girl yah i know, but i think what im asking you guys is, is this my fault? should i have just stayed her friend? was i wrong in the choice i made? ide give anything right now for her to call me and say i decided your more important to me than john, but i know she wont, it sucks
if you read this whole thing i really gotta hand it to you, thats a **** load of reading right there, so please help me out, thanks


Thanks,
Justin

to the longest girl problem in the history of ST
i always knew ide get the gold for this

UPDATE

Well she calls me tonight and tries to talk to me, i made it clear i didnt want to talk, but we wound up talking for about an hour, mostly her *****ing at me and saying how bad of a person i am, but we came to some interesting conclusions. Such as she knows her boyfriend cheats on her, but she accepts it. I told her thats low and shes better than that, I wouldnt do that, but you'd never know because you never gave me the chance. I thought that was weird she knows this guy cheats on her, and she just lets it go. I said bianca, Im sticking with what i said earlier, its me or him, she insited that we should jsut be friends, i told her the reason we get into the fights is because she cant make a choice, i like her as more than a friend, and i wont stick around if your going out with someone who i know im better than. She was all upset saying shes losing her best friend. But i asked her, what did i do exactly that made you get over me, and start seeing me as only a friend. And she told me, that i was jsut to avalible, i treated her as more of a friend than someone i wanted to be with, and i had her give me examples and ****, and now i know where ive been going wrong, and dammit im gunna fix that before my next relationship, which i am currently working on may i add. I am mostly over this bianca chick, and glad of it. It was a mess, that we both caused. But i know what ive been doing that ****s me over in trying to get a gf. I act to much like a friend. So now i hope i can change that, and have some better luck. Everything happens for a reason.


Bleachedblonde, because your are basically the biggest ladies man in all of pbnation, freakin give me some suggestions,

example, this girl who we'll call Crystal, goes to my school, shes wicked cool, and what not, so she txt's me tonite, ( i havent talked to her in a while i havent been in school) and she goes...Rick dumped me, and i asked what happened, she said it was random and we're over, so I said ill come pick u up, you should get out, she said thanks but shes gettin hamered with her gf's, and i asked what are you doing on the 24th, she said she doesnt knw, so i invited her to go to this sold out concert with me, because i have 2 tix, (and since bianca isnt going...sophie doesnt know that, and i wont tell her) so she was wicked excited and what not, so i told her i gotta run and ill ttyl, adn she said bye, and "you just made my night alot better justin" so like, at this point what should i say/do to make it clear i want to be her bf, not her friend

(for the record i know she wants to go to this concert, we listen to the same music, so im positive she wnats to go haha)

bam!


help!?

[Bobeo]

Wow, this thread has become a great success. Version 4 coming tomorrow!

[croix153™ (Banned)]

k first post here.

Basically theres this girl I go to class with that I really like, shes just fun to hang out with, and is into the same stuff i'm into. And she also seems into me....however, I'm really nervous about asking her out, because she is 3 years older than me.(I'm 15, shes 18) Am I misterpreting her signs?

[P8ntLife189]

Originally Posted by croix153™

k first post here.

Basically theres this girl I go to class with that I really like, shes just fun to hang out with, and is into the same stuff i'm into. And she also seems into me....however, I'm really nervous about asking her out, because she is 3 years older than me.(I'm 15, shes 18) Am I misterpreting her signs?

Bro, hoenstly shes to old for you dont ask her out, just enjoy being around her.

[toastersrcool]

Originally Posted by P8ntLife189

UPDATE


Bleachedblonde, because your are basically the biggest ladies man in all of pbnation, freakin give me some suggestions,

example, this girl who we'll call Crystal, goes to my school, shes wicked cool, and what not, so she txt's me tonite, ( i havent talked to her in a while i havent been in school) and she goes...Rick dumped me, and i asked what happened, she said it was random and we're over, so I said ill come pick u up, you should get out, she said thanks but shes gettin hamered with her gf's, and i asked what are you doing on the 24th, she said she doesnt knw, so i invited her to go to this sold out concert with me, because i have 2 tix, (and since bianca isnt going...sophie doesnt know that, and i wont tell her) so she was wicked excited and what not, so i told her i gotta run and ill ttyl, adn she said bye, and "you just made my night alot better justin" so like, at this point what should i say/do to make it clear i want to be her bf, not her friend

(for the record i know she wants to go to this concert, we listen to the same music, so im positive she wnats to go haha)

bam!


help!?

i know you were asking bleached but personally i feel you are still out there a little too much. its all just the context of the words really. like instead of asking her to come with you to the concert you could have said "now if your good i might just take you to a the (whatever concert it is) concert" (smile playfully and also say it playfully)or something where you dont give her the decision to go, its if YOU choose to let her come with you. do you follow?


edit: p8ntlife is right about the 18 y.o chick. shes too old so you should be friend her and get free rides

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