[starkc]

Originally Posted by Bleachednblonde

KeNzi: haha. True, women do love a guy with balls.

One would think that is preferable, yes. But why those "emo" guys? What's up with that?


And confidence is deinatly important. Like you said, most don't know it, it's like subconcious.

[Bleachednblonde (Banned)]

Originally Posted by starkc

One would think that is preferable, yes. But why those "emo" guys? What's up with that?


And confidence is deinatly important. Like you said, most don't know it, it's like subconcious.

The only reason i've found taht girls like an emo guy is for control. Some women with low self esteem and confidence need to have man they can push around and control. Who better than the emo kid? She can keep him on an emotional leash.

[drunktiger21]

Originally Posted by Bleachednblonde

The only reason i've found taht girls like an emo guy is for control. Some women with low self esteem and confidence need to have man they can push around and control. Who better than the emo kid? She can keep him on an emotional leash.

I'll quote this instead of the big guide.

Thanks man. Amazing stuff. I'll work on it and let you know how it works.
Quick question, though- how can I talk to the girl about sex and such with out sounding like a perv?

[cookie123]

Originally Posted by Bleachednblonde

Wait this girl is 18 and has never kissed someone????

no no, she has.

honestly, she is my 2nd girlfriend(yea I am kind of a loner) and my first one didnt kiss me. and this one knows it would be my first real kiss. so I think thats why she wants to make it special.

[12345421]

Originally Posted by cookie123

no no, she has.

honestly, she is my 2nd girlfriend(yea I am kind of a loner) and my first one didnt kiss me. and this one knows it would be my first real kiss. so I think thats why she wants to make it special.

Why should she care that you have a first special kiss? If I were you I would just attempt to kiss her at any possible moment... or try this, lol, it's classic.
You: Kiss me on the cheek
Her: *Leans in to kiss you on the cheek*
You: *Move your lips to meet hers quickly*

I tried it at a party Saturday night... I was so drunk that I leaned in to kiss her instead and realized I got it backwards about 10 min later, lol.

[fireisgood4u]

Originally Posted by Bleachednblonde

The only reason i've found taht girls like an emo guy is for control. Some women with low self esteem and confidence need to have man they can push around and control. Who better than the emo kid? She can keep him on an emotional leash.

Also it's just based on the fact it's not 'normal' persay. Most guys that dress 'emo' aren't really even 'emo' the begin with. Chicks are told to like the cookie cutter nice jeans nice shirt average joe blah blah. Thus this guy that dresses completly different and is unique and attractive.

Kind of like guys being attracted to gothic girls persay....

Personally I find 'emo' chicks attractive. But that's because I've loved short black hair since I was young.

[|Simplicity|]

Okay, so i didnt talk to the girl today because her friend bounced before i could find her. ****. Well, theres always tomorow.

Originally Posted by fireisgood4u

Also it's just based on the fact it's not 'normal' persay. Most guys that dress 'emo' aren't really even 'emo' the begin with. Chicks are told to like the cookie cutter nice jeans nice shirt average joe blah blah. Thus this guy that dresses completly different and is unique and attractive.

Kind of like guys being attracted to gothic girls persay....

Personally I find 'emo' chicks attractive. But that's because I've loved short black hair since I was young.

Girls like guys who stand out, and like to be noticed, without being a loser, that means they are cool and have a higher social status. And when they where more better clothes, it means they have money too. And you know women like money. You dont need to have to be redicuolously <--(omg sp) to get a girl. but you do need to be presentable. emo kids dont walk around in sweat pants and ****shirts.. so they automatically get points. im not gonna lie, i like to scumbag it alot. except when i wanna meet someone, like today and tomorow, im almost on top of my game look wise.

[fireisgood4u]

Originally Posted by |Simplicity|

Okay, so i didnt talk to the girl today because her friend bounced before i could find her. ****. Well, theres always tomorow.

Simp do you always have to post every detail?? I mean I'm not trying to be a bother but none of us are posting just little things that happened to us. Just try and make your posts a little more contentful I guess, or try to make one large post rather than several small ones. It'll keep the thread more organized persay.

Originally Posted by fireisgood4u

Also it's just based on the fact it's not 'normal' persay. Most guys that dress 'emo' aren't really even 'emo' the begin with. Chicks are told to like the cookie cutter nice jeans nice shirt average joe blah blah. Thus this guy that dresses completly different and is unique and attractive.

Kind of like guys being attracted to gothic girls persay....

Personally I find 'emo' chicks attractive. But that's because I've loved short black hair since I was young.

Also edit on that, it's not just the attitude they find attractive. It's the image created. A chick can see an 'emo' guy and say "omg hottness" without knowing the smallest detail about him.

[|Simplicity|]

Originally Posted by fireisgood4u

Simp do you always have to post every detail?? I mean I'm not trying to be a bother but none of us are posting just little things that happened to us. Just try and make your posts a little more contentful I guess, or try to make one large post rather than several small ones. It'll keep the thread more organized persay.

i stick with christ, therefore, i do what i want but if you want the lowdown:
i was at hollister working (i ****ing hate that place im going to abercrombie soon) anyway, this girl who i used to know, suddenly became smoking hot. with the nicest *** ever. and i remembered her, but she didnt remember me, so we got into talking and i was like
'so i really cant believe you dont remember me?'
'something something something.'
'well i gotta get back to work, ill see you tomorow'
'your cute'
:double take:
'oh okay, bye'

Thats pretty much the lowdown. ill get pics eventually.

[2k6Unleashed (Banned)]

Ok, so I follow this thread fairly regularly and always read the intresting problems/solutions and of course Bleach's advice.

And now I've come across a problem of my own, so I CAME here for some wise words. Yea, came here. Deliberately. No need to lie.

Here goes:
(Background) I go to a small highschool, and 95% of the girls here just don't interest me, out of the batch that I can picture myself with I picked one. (oneitis = bad, i know) However I have 0 classes with her, so talking is limited to hello's/short comments, in the halls, and weekend activities. Recently she got a boyfriend, and I'd like to know how to stay out of the friendzone during this time period, so that I can be an option when/if the breakup happens. My other problem seems to be that most girls don't take me seriously, or atleast that's the vibe I get after talking/flirting with them. I'm a senior, and I think I look young, but uptown (collegetown) people have mistaken me for being in college so that might just be an insecurity. Right now I'm getting over the one girl, and thinking of the other possibilities I've overlooked.

[|Simplicity|]

Originally Posted by 2k6Unleashed

Ok, so I follow this thread fairly regularly and always read the intresting problems/solutions and of course Bleach's advice.

And now I've come across a problem of my own, so I CAME here for some wise words. Yea, came here. Deliberately. No need to lie.

Here goes:
(Background) I go to a small highschool, and 95% of the girls here just don't interest me, out of the batch that I can picture myself with I picked one. (oneitis = bad, i know) However I have 0 classes with her, so talking is limited to hello's/short comments, in the halls, and weekend activities. Recently she got a boyfriend, and I'd like to know how to stay out of the friendzone during this time period, so that I can be an option when/if the breakup happens. My other problem seems to be that most girls don't take me seriously, or atleast that's the vibe I get after talking/flirting with them. I'm a senior, and I think I look young, but uptown (collegetown) people have mistaken me for being in college so that might just be an insecurity. Right now I'm getting over the one girl, and thinking of the other possibilities I've overlooked.

IF you overlooked other possibilities, i'd rethink them. Theres a saying i know..

Sometimes love isnt about, how much someone suits you.
But how much your willing to change, to suit them.

And i say that to everyone who's overlooked a semi decent chick because something better came along, yeah shes got a bigger ***, and bigger tits, but you probably know that the uglier one would probably treat you better then the hot one would. But in the end its your decision, and manipulation is the only good factor for the better looking chicks.

Anyway, staying out of the friendzone during a relationship i think is pretty hard, you have to keep minimal contact, and when they break up, then you return back to normal. But since shes got a guy, then i wouldnt mess with it, because she will call you out on it, and might get the boyfriend involved, which isnt good for you.

[TrixesOwn]

heres my problem. there is this girl that i like alot. she had an ex bf that she broke up with a while ago. She couldnt get over him for a long time and think she is finally starting to. Anyways while she was having this dilema over her ex bf, she new that i really liked her. I think she was kinda using me to get over him and make herself feel better. She would show interest in me at points and at others nothing. She would hold my hand while watching movies and do little things like that, cuddle etc.. Then one day we got into an argument about her ex bf. She got mad at me because she said iam jelous of him and that everytime she is in a bad mood i think its because she is upset about her ex bf. She was mad at me for like 3 days and we have gotten over it since then. Now i finally think she is getting over her ex bf but it doesnt seem like she is showing an interest in me. Iam having a hard time getting her to do things with me anymore and i always read how on her myspace she is kinda liking being single. She used to post bulletins up and there would be questions like "do you have a crush on anyone?" and she would say yes. Now she answers with ehhhh. So anyways i am in need of some good ideas to get her to like me again. I am supposed to hang out with her tomorrow or thursday and i feel like the pressure is on because if i dont make something happen or somehow get to like me again... i dont know if i will get another chance. I feel like iam trying to push myself on her but I cant help it. I like her a lot and always want to be with her. Alot of people have told me to play hard to get. Example: fall off the planet and see how she responds. If I did this i would be afraid that she would just totally forget about me and not even care, and that it would reuin my chances even worse. So please ST i really like this girl and i need some advice.
thanks alot

[fireisgood4u]

Originally Posted by TrixesOwn

heres my problem. there is this girl that i like alot. she had an ex bf that she broke up with a while ago. She couldnt get over him for a long time and think she is finally starting to. Anyways while she was having this dilema over her ex bf, she new that i really liked her. I think she was kinda using me to get over him and make herself feel better. She would show interest in me at points and at others nothing. She would hold my hand while watching movies and do little things like that, cuddle etc.. Then one day we got into an argument about her ex bf. She got mad at me because she said iam jelous of him and that everytime she is in a bad mood i think its because she is upset about her ex bf. She was mad at me for like 3 days and we have gotten over it since then. Now i finally think she is getting over her ex bf but it doesnt seem like she is showing an interest in me. Iam having a hard time getting her to do things with me anymore and i always read how on her myspace she is kinda liking being single. She used to post bulletins up and there would be questions like "do you have a crush on anyone?" and she would say yes. Now she answers with ehhhh. So anyways i am in need of some good ideas to get her to like me again. I am supposed to hang out with her tomorrow or thursday and i feel like the pressure is on because if i dont make something happen or somehow get to like me again... i dont know if i will get another chance. I feel like iam trying to push myself on her but I cant help it. I like her a lot and always want to be with her. Alot of people have told me to play hard to get. Example: fall off the planet and see how she responds. If I did this i would be afraid that she would just totally forget about me and not even care, and that it would reuin my chances even worse. So please ST i really like this girl and i need some advice.
thanks alot

It seems like you're already in friends trap. You should never communicate to a girl that you like her before she does to you. Thus she holds all the power.

Just don't overstress about it, be confident and independent from her and see other women. You shouldn't be overobsessing over just one, or any for that manner.

[p8ntballr1125]

Originally Posted by TrixesOwn

heres my problem. there is this girl that i like alot. she had an ex bf that she broke up with a while ago. She couldnt get over him for a long time and think she is finally starting to. Anyways while she was having this dilema over her ex bf, she new that i really liked her. I think she was kinda using me to get over him and make herself feel better. She would show interest in me at points and at others nothing. She would hold my hand while watching movies and do little things like that, cuddle etc.. Then one day we got into an argument about her ex bf. She got mad at me because she said iam jelous of him and that everytime she is in a bad mood i think its because she is upset about her ex bf. She was mad at me for like 3 days and we have gotten over it since then. Now i finally think she is getting over her ex bf but it doesnt seem like she is showing an interest in me. Iam having a hard time getting her to do things with me anymore and i always read how on her myspace she is kinda liking being single. She used to post bulletins up and there would be questions like "do you have a crush on anyone?" and she would say yes. Now she answers with ehhhh. So anyways i am in need of some good ideas to get her to like me again. I am supposed to hang out with her tomorrow or thursday and i feel like the pressure is on because if i dont make something happen or somehow get to like me again... i dont know if i will get another chance. I feel like iam trying to push myself on her but I cant help it. I like her a lot and always want to be with her. Alot of people have told me to play hard to get. Example: fall off the planet and see how she responds. If I did this i would be afraid that she would just totally forget about me and not even care, and that it would reuin my chances even worse. So please ST i really like this girl and i need some advice.
thanks alot

My advise would be to drop contact with her as soon as possible. It might be too late, because she knows you are interested and she COULD have you...

Try and keep contact to a minumum for a little while and see how she responds.

[Bobeo]

Originally Posted by 2k6Unleashed

Ok, so I follow this thread fairly regularly and always read the intresting problems/solutions and of course Bleach's advice.

And now I've come across a problem of my own, so I CAME here for some wise words. Yea, came here. Deliberately. No need to lie.

Here goes:
(Background) I go to a small highschool, and 95% of the girls here just don't interest me, out of the batch that I can picture myself with I picked one. (oneitis = bad, i know) However I have 0 classes with her, so talking is limited to hello's/short comments, in the halls, and weekend activities. Recently she got a boyfriend, and I'd like to know how to stay out of the friendzone during this time period, so that I can be an option when/if the breakup happens. My other problem seems to be that most girls don't take me seriously, or atleast that's the vibe I get after talking/flirting with them. I'm a senior, and I think I look young, but uptown (collegetown) people have mistaken me for being in college so that might just be an insecurity. Right now I'm getting over the one girl, and thinking of the other possibilities I've overlooked.

OK, first of all you need to come up with something in common. While it is possible to pull a conversation out of thin air for some people, it just makes it easier if you have something to talk about. Think about anything...seriously anything. Walk up to her and discuss it in the halls.

Basically you are making an "approach." Tell her you have this friend and you want someone's opinion (jealous girlfriend opener). Anything.

Once you have planted the seed (wow that sounds dumb) just keep on escalating. Ask her to hang out, whatever. Basically you are going to begin dating her without her knowing.

Once this begins keep on escalating. If she ever gets emotional with you (starts talking about boyfriend problems) RUN AWAY IMMEDIATELY! You never want her to think of you as a friend. You want her to know, in the back of her mind, that you want something more. But don't say this out loud. You need to just have that attitude.

For example, I was in th same situation a couple of weeks ago. I wanted a girl with a boyfriend. Well, I started hanging out with her, but I made it clear I wanted more. She would give me a hug, I would hug her for longer than expected. Create a sexual tension.

OK, if you feel that she is not going to break up with her boyfriend anytime soon, use some boyfriend destroying techniques. Here is a post in another forum about some of these techniques. You need to register there but it is worth it.

http://www.mysterymethod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96

There you go. Good luck

Originally Posted by TrixesOwn

heres my problem. there is this girl that i like alot. she had an ex bf that she broke up with a while ago. She couldnt get over him for a long time and think she is finally starting to. Anyways while she was having this dilema over her ex bf, she new that i really liked her. I think she was kinda using me to get over him and make herself feel better. She would show interest in me at points and at others nothing. She would hold my hand while watching movies and do little things like that, cuddle etc.. Then one day we got into an argument about her ex bf. She got mad at me because she said iam jelous of him and that everytime she is in a bad mood i think its because she is upset about her ex bf. She was mad at me for like 3 days and we have gotten over it since then. Now i finally think she is getting over her ex bf but it doesnt seem like she is showing an interest in me. Iam having a hard time getting her to do things with me anymore and i always read how on her myspace she is kinda liking being single. She used to post bulletins up and there would be questions like "do you have a crush on anyone?" and she would say yes. Now she answers with ehhhh. So anyways i am in need of some good ideas to get her to like me again. I am supposed to hang out with her tomorrow or thursday and i feel like the pressure is on because if i dont make something happen or somehow get to like me again... i dont know if i will get another chance. I feel like iam trying to push myself on her but I cant help it. I like her a lot and always want to be with her. Alot of people have told me to play hard to get. Example: fall off the planet and see how she responds. If I did this i would be afraid that she would just totally forget about me and not even care, and that it would reuin my chances even worse. So please ST i really like this girl and i need some advice.
thanks alot

Seriously, it sounds like you are in the friend trap already. Now I have given this advice before but I will give it again:

Be friends with her.

Having a good female friend, preferable one that is attractive, is a great tool for picking up other girls. She can help you out, give advice to you, and best of all, when you show up at a party with her all of the other girls think: "Hey, he is good enough for her. He is good enough for me." See what I am saying?

If you choose to not follow this advice, which it sounds as if you won't, you need to break off contact for a while. That is the only way out. When you comne back, come back a better looking, smoother talking guy. Change you entire image when you start seeing her agian. Make it dramatic enough that she thinks: "Damn, old boy turned into a stud." It needs to be pretty extreme or you will fall back into your previous catagory.

There is one other possibility. Maybe, probably not but maybe, you are not in the friend trap. Maybe your situation is exaggereated because we are not there. We do not know exactly what the situation is through the internet. We can only give a best guess. If this is the case (I seriously doubt it) use everything you know, everything that has been posted in this thread to make her attracted to you. I am not going to post this all for you because it is all in this thread, or links attached to it, and it would take forever.

Good luck

EDIT: By the way fellas, try to keep this from becoming a GDT. All of the little side conversation are a little annoying to sort through.

[fireisgood4u]

Originally Posted by Bobeo

Be friends with her.

Having a good female friend, preferable one that is attractive, is a great tool for picking up other girls. She can help you out, give advice to you, and best of all, when you show up at a party with her all of the other girls think: "Hey, he is good enough for her. He is good enough for me." See what I am saying?



EDIT: By the way fellas, try to keep this from becoming a GDT. All of the little side conversation are a little annoying to sort through.

Close HB female friends are priceless. They'll fix your collars and give advice when you need it. And if you are around them in public it makes a great pivot, also if you communicate that you're just friends and happy with that it's also a good way to develop value.

Agreeded with the edit...

[komodo_117]

Originally Posted by fireisgood4u

Close HB female friends are priceless. They'll fix your collars and give advice when you need it. And if you are around them in public it makes a great pivot, also if you communicate that you're just friends and happy with that it's also a good way to develop value.

Agreeded with the edit...

Yea, what if you start to have one too many female freinds, and they start to cause problems for you when you go after other girls? Things like spreading rumors, making **** up to get you to not go out with her, talking to her and screwing things up, etc.

Time to get new freinds then?

*agreed on the side convo stuff. We dont need a play by play Simplicity. You dont need to brag to us, especially after seeing how stupid you look in person.*

[fireisgood4u]

Originally Posted by komodo_117

Yea, what if you start to have one too many female freinds, and they start to cause problems for you when you go after other girls? Things like spreading rumors, making **** up to get you to not go out with her, talking to her and screwing things up, etc.

Time to get new freinds then?

*agreed on the side convo stuff. We dont need a play by play Simplicity. You dont need to brag to us, especially after seeing how stupid you look in person.*

Come on let's not start flamewars in here...let's just all agree to keep the play by play posts or short not really on topic posts to a minimum. We're all here for the same reason.

For you, it sounds like you need some new female friends. Women are evil even towards their female friends. Just start cutting them out and stuff...you're a busy independent man your time is precious.

Make friends with the 'goodgirls' persay. Ones that are reasonable with heads on their shoulders and don't talk too much ****.

I've kind of cut links of with my HB friends due to the fact I've come with terms at how much I dislike their personalitys. I'm still on perfectly good terms with them however I won't be the one to start conversation etc.

[savage003]

ok, so i cant even find anything to talk about with this chick, but if i just had a way to ask her to a movie I would be alright from there. Usually i have no trouble but with this certain girl i find it impossible. what do i say?

[Bobeo]

Originally Posted by komodo_117

Yea, what if you start to have one too many female freinds, and they start to cause problems for you when you go after other girls? Things like spreading rumors, making **** up to get you to not go out with her, talking to her and screwing things up, etc.

Time to get new freinds then?

OK, well a couple things here. One, if you have a "friend" who is spreading rumors about you, and doing this stuff, I would venture to say that they might be jealous of the other women. If you are attracted to her, go for it because that is what she wants. She isn't helping you as a friend anymore, so might as well keep her as more than that(if it pleases you).

Or they might just be *****es.

[komodo_117]

Yea, you know that story about the girl I was just recently after, a few pages back? Got a tad drunk at our band practice, and was being retarded? Feeling really ****ty that night, I told one of my freinds, that happens to be a girl, about the whole incident.

Get an IM not even 10 minutes ago from the one I was after, saying how she isnt going to be hanging out with us anymore, because people are spreading rumors (they made it sound worse now). Gee, I wonder who could have done that?

Girls = Evil. Most conniving creatures I have ever encountered in this world.

*edit* Kind of leaning towards them just being *****es thing, since a few of them are my falied attempts from the past.