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Old 06-19-2010, 04:35 PM #1933
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Enlighten me.
I prefer my laptops to:

not be made out of plastic
not to have a ****ty trackpad which is barely useable
not have cheap hinges which go bad after a year use
not have an OS that I need to reinstall just to get rid of bloatware and separate partitions that I wont need
have a battery that I don't need to worry about plugging in to charge throughout my day. (reviews said those get around 90 mins)

But what does any of that matter if it doesn't have i7, 8 gigs of ram, and specs out the *** that you'll barely ever use to maximum power.

There is more to technical quality that just specs, and if your going to spend $1,200 on a laptop to last 4 years, why is $500 more such a big deal?

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Old 06-19-2010, 05:54 PM #1934
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I'm looking at buying the Hp Envy 14 laptop when it is released on June 27th; is there any information you can provide that would be helpful in making a choice? I've previously considered purchasing a MacBook for somewhere around $999-$1,300; however the Envy has better specs for a lower price.

Does anyone have an Envy laptop? How do you like it, and what are some up's/down's of it?

I know millions of you have MacBooks, but what would YOU suggest?

That is true for any computer Apple makes. There is always a Windows laptop with better specs for less.
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Old 06-19-2010, 06:10 PM #1935
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Old 06-19-2010, 06:42 PM #1936
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That is true for any computer Apple makes. There is always a Windows laptop with better specs for less.
True. From your experience though which would you choose, and why?

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Old 06-19-2010, 07:17 PM #1937
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True. From your experience though which would you choose, and why?
Well, I have never owned a laptop, so I don't know if my opinion is the one you want, but the one that I asked the question about on the previous page seems to be my best bet.

You should know that there are some things that make me want that laptop more than other people might. I hate the 13xx by 7xx (cant remember exactly what it is) resolution that most laptops in that range have. Also, the audio capabilities are more important to me than they may be for most people.
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Old 06-19-2010, 09:50 PM #1938
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True. From your experience though which would you choose, and why?
What do you plan on using it for?
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Old 06-19-2010, 11:51 PM #1939
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I prefer my laptops to:

not be made out of plastic
not to have a ****ty trackpad which is barely useable
not have cheap hinges which go bad after a year use
not have an OS that I need to reinstall just to get rid of bloatware and separate partitions that I wont need
have a battery that I don't need to worry about plugging in to charge throughout my day. (reviews said those get around 90 mins)

But what does any of that matter if it doesn't have i7, 8 gigs of ram, and specs out the *** that you'll barely ever use to maximum power.

There is more to technical quality that just specs, and if your going to spend $1,200 on a laptop to last 4 years, why is $500 more such a big deal?
I have no clue what laptops you're using, but the only true part of that list is the plastic part, which doesn't even matter because if you NEED a metal case to protect your laptop you're doing something incorrectly.

Bold'd: News flash: MacBooks use power too.
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Old 06-19-2010, 11:54 PM #1940
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And for the cost difference you could get like 10 extra batteries and not plug that ****er in for days.
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Old 06-20-2010, 12:32 AM #1941
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I have no clue what laptops you're using, but the only true part of that list is the plastic part, which doesn't even matter because if you NEED a metal case to protect your laptop you're doing something incorrectly.

Bold'd: News flash: MacBooks use power too.
I've had 2 friends who had the previous version of the ASUS, and both hinges have gone bad. How is it not true that they install bloatware and separate recovery partitions on the drive?

Why would you want a cheap feeling laptop if your spending a $1,000 yet complain because people spend extra for buying an Apple product?

I've yet to come across any windows laptop that has as good of a battery as an mbp.

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Old 06-20-2010, 02:30 AM #1942
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I've yet to come across any windows laptop that has as good of a battery as an mbp.
I'm not really sure what to say about that.
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Old 06-20-2010, 02:55 AM #1943
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What do you plan on using it for?
I plan to use it for web browsing, downloading/storing/burning music and videos, as well as photo editing and possible video editing.

I have found HP Envy Refurbished laptops for almost a $400 cheaper than the brand new ones on their site. Do you guys see anything wrong with doing that?

My dad has bought six refurbished computers from HP in the past, and all have outperformed the last. We have never had a serious issue, and that's what tempts me to go the 'refurb' route.
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Old 06-20-2010, 03:09 AM #1944
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Refurbs are usually great, especially if they come straight from the manufacturer. Just make sure they come with a warranty.
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Old 06-20-2010, 10:43 AM #1945
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I plan to use it for web browsing, downloading/storing/burning music and videos, as well as photo editing and possible video editing.

I have found HP Envy Refurbished laptops for almost a $400 cheaper than the brand new ones on their site. Do you guys see anything wrong with doing that?

My dad has bought six refurbished computers from HP in the past, and all have outperformed the last. We have never had a serious issue, and that's what tempts me to go the 'refurb' route.
Be careful and look up what kind of problems other people have been having with the same models of laptop you're having. I know if I'd checked out the support forums for my laptop, I would have spent the extra $100 on a intel/nvidia model instead of a amd/ati model due to all the heat complaints other people posted about and I ended up having.

For example: http://h20435.www2.hp.com/t5/HP-Envy...F A8D71CC0F22
Take a look through that and see what issues are common and whether they're easy to fix.
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Old 06-20-2010, 11:23 AM #1946
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I'm not really sure what to say about that.
Hahahah.

Srsly.
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Old 06-20-2010, 02:44 PM #1947
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Refurbs are usually great, especially if they come straight from the manufacturer. Just make sure they come with a warranty.
I have also heard that refurbs are good as long as they come from a reputable source.

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Be careful and look up what kind of problems other people have been having with the same models of laptop you're having. I know if I'd checked out the support forums for my laptop, I would have spent the extra $100 on a intel/nvidia model instead of a amd/ati model due to all the heat complaints other people posted about and I ended up having.

For example: http://h20435.www2.hp.com/t5/HP-Envy...F A8D71CC0F22
Take a look through that and see what issues are common and whether they're easy to fix.
Thanks for finding that for me. I have taken a look at the HP forums over the past few days and have found that the i7's come with heat issues. Some people have had issues with the bottom of the laptop getting so hot, it's not possible to touch. Therefore I think I'm going the i5 route. I also plan to get a fan. Other than that, I'm not sure what else I can do.

I also plan on getting an accidental warranty a well.

Does anyone know if you're able to purchase an accidental/extended warranty on refurbished laptops?
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Hmmmmm...

http://www.msimobile.com/level3_prod...x?cid=9&id=217

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834114803
?

Also, has anyone here actually bought a pre-fab computer from MSI? (I've bought a board or two but never an actual system...) If so, any thoughts?
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Old 06-20-2010, 06:28 PM #1949
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Anyone here own an HP Envy Beats Limited Edition laptop?
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An RL friend is trying to tell me that the current generation of 17" MBP out-performs http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16834220695R

I was like

That laptop above was $1081 open box earlier today, btw.
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Hey guys i just got a new laptop (Toshiba satellite A505) and i need some help setting it up. I bought Office Home & Student 2010 and it downloaded and installed without Word, so i repaired it via Add/Remove programs and it got Word back, but lost Excel. Tried it again and lost powerpoint. Now it will occasionally get a pop up saying it is downloading required files, but ill leave the computer on for hours and it wont download anything, any help?
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An RL friend is trying to tell me that the current generation of 17" MBP out-performs http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16834220695R

I was like

That laptop above was $1081 open box earlier today, btw.
Yeah but the hinges suck and the battery life isn't good!

Only poor people buy plastic laptops.
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This M11x is AWESOME! I love it so far. Ill keep updating the thread here if anything goes drastically wrong or right.
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