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Old 09-02-2014, 10:00 PM #1
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The Angel ??? Fly

So here's a "new" one. The story goes (as heard from Jay, as heard from former APS employees) that APS was planning a new model to follow the A1 Fly. It was meant to be like the Speed, toned down with an LED board instead of the conventional screen, different milling and a lower price. As a test run, APS had these bodies produced before scrapping the project in favor of the SB and AR:K line.

Only 4 of these bodies were made available. And after talking to Methodcaptain, there may have been one assembled overseas a long while ago. That would make this A1 a 1 of 5. Perhaps Jay can shed some more light on this one, though, as he believes there to only be 4. If there are only 4, Jay, myself and Methodcaptain are the only people in possession of them. This information might be useful for future cataloging.

As for the name. Jay has taken to calling it the A1 Speed, as that was the intention. Being that these will all most likely be built as Flys, Methodcaptain offered up the name A1 Hybrid Fly and I have offered up A1 Speed Fly. We haven't decided yet. Maybe you guys have some ideas.

Now for the pictures. These bodies are obviously raw aluminum. The machining marks are still visible so we'll have to get them finished and anodized. You'll see this body can't be made from an existing body as it has a bit more "meat" to it in some places. Perhaps Methodcaptain will share some pictures of his mockup, as well.









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Old 09-02-2014, 10:21 PM #2
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Damn, you weren't kidding when you said you were working on something cool. I'm glad that a bunch of my parts are going to this.
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Old 09-02-2014, 11:29 PM #3
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I would love to see this when it is finished..... I have some rare angels but this is a true unicorn....
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Old 09-03-2014, 12:38 AM #4
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Old 09-03-2014, 12:58 AM #5
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Old 09-03-2014, 07:54 AM #6
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I vaguely remember one of these coming up for sale on angel owners back in the day slapped together with old A1 parts. Wanted a damn fortune for it. Neat find none the less.
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Old 09-03-2014, 09:18 AM #7
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Its quite cool. Am I the only one that cried a little when you mentioned there was plans for an a1 LED board that never happened?
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Old 09-03-2014, 09:25 AM #8
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Common name: Coffin Fly

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Old 09-03-2014, 11:22 AM #9
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Just chiming in the verify this. Here is what I shared with the people that now have the bodies:
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The story: This is according to people who used to work for Angel (you would definitely know one of them). As you may know, Angel often did an LCD version of a gun, then did a 'speed' version, with an LED style board, different milling, and a lower price. These were the first run of 4 bodies for approval for what I will call the A1 Speed, for lack of an official name. This was never done for two reasons, one of which was the switch to the breechless design, the SB and AR:K.

There is no way to make one of these from any existing A1 body, as it has material on top of the breech area that is not present on other bodies. As such, these are the only 4 that will ever exist. There is no more raw extrusion anywhere, including china, to make more bodies.
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I'll be as excited as the rest of you to see what happens to these.
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Old 09-03-2014, 11:46 AM #10
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I'm really looking forward to getting mine done.

I was thinking of doing something simple, maybe single color dust anodizing (which is how Speeds were done). I'll be using fly parts, but I was thinking of keeping it toned down as a speed would have been.

I may even pick up a non OLED board for it to keep it "Speed like".

I'll post up photos of the mock up later today. I really like the milling.

Thanks to Jay for the opportunity to have something really rare and unique.
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Old 09-03-2014, 12:45 PM #11
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I may even pick up a non OLED board for it to keep it "Speed like".
That's what I was thinking! Virtue Redefined so it's as close to a Speed 05/06 as possible.

I'm working on acquiring one of the four myself. We'll see how it goes.
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Old 09-03-2014, 12:49 PM #12
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Yep virtue LED board is definitely the way to go. Fly parts.
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Old 09-03-2014, 12:54 PM #13
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Can't wait to see this completed. I also agree on a Virtue LED board.
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:29 PM #14
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I think I actually like that milling more than the stock fly milling.
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:44 PM #15
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Congrats on the find guys. I'm jealous of the find even though I'm not a fan of the A1 platform.
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Old 09-04-2014, 04:23 PM #16
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Old 09-04-2014, 05:48 PM #17
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Mine is on the way! Now......what to do about the ano?
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Old 09-04-2014, 06:26 PM #18
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Mine is on the way! Now......what to do about the ano?
That....... is the question lol.

I'm still thinking single color. My first speed was a dust silver, so I may go that route.

I was also thinking of doing purple dust, in support of my wife going through hodgkins Lymnphona (cancer). I think that may be more meaningful. This is going to be a keeper.
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Old 09-04-2014, 09:31 PM #19
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Purple is big in my family too because of pancreatic cancer.

I was thinking a solid gloss on the lighter side to highlight the rare milling. I just don't know yet if I want to do old school splash over it or stay solid. I tend to like multiple colors so it would be a combo even in solid, like body one color grip frame another for example.
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Old 09-04-2014, 09:36 PM #20
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So now that the three bodies Jay wanted to sell are accounted for, I wonder if the last one will stay with him or find a home?
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Old 09-04-2014, 10:26 PM #21
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I'm thinking of doing an acid wash with dust black accents. IDK!
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