Originally posted by the saint
the new and old one are the same just that the new one you dont shoot your fingers lol as for the loader sheridan makes a repair kit to fix it. and the sight works fine.
If you pollish the barel up it shoots fine. ITS A hand pump what else do you want ? to tell you the truth buy a PT EXTREAM that's a pistol to have you can put a bottom line and hopper on it for some hard core play ! the pgp holds like 9 balls that dont last to long and the TP is only 15 bucks more than the PGP.
I own both, so I think I am suitably qualified to answer
As for them being the same, they aren't exactly. The new one is MUCH MUCH easier to change 12 grams with. I can do it in a matter of seconds, which matters a lot in stock games, and especially in open class games. There is also a velocity adjustor included stock, which is much needed if you ever want to shoot faster than 230fps on cold days. Or if you'd like to chrono under 300 on hot days.
As for the new loader system, it's nice. However, part of mine has broken ( one of the rear fiber optic sights) so I can see how the whole thing could. As for the problems with feeding, those have been fixed if I recall correctly.
Anyway, if you're getting a PGP for the first time, pick up the first one unless you really care about the difference in barrel length. Keep in mind you are going to end up buying a fassst changer, speedloader, and velocity adjustor for the old style pgp anyway if you want to be able to use it comfortably. It can be used stock, but it's much nicer to be able to change co2 quickly and velocity.
Slap a Masse Machine speedloader on the new PGP and I think it's perfect.
*edit* forgot to rail against the PT Extreme heh.
Anyway, to me semi auto paintball pistol doesn't make much sense. The PT guns you will get about 10-15 useable shots out of a 12 gram, provided you can get it to a decent velocity (250fps) in the first place. Hell it's even bigger and chunkier than the new model PGP. In semi you will shoot those 10 shots and wonder where they went. With a PGP you will actually make your 11 shots (10 feed, 1 chambered) count. You will aim and you will get 25+ good shots on a 12 gram depending on the temperature. I'd hate to see performance on a PT in winter when I get 10-15 good shots on my PGP instead of the usual 25. But I change 12 grams after 20 shots anyway.
As for slapping a hopper and bottom line on it, WHY? Might as well by a Rebel then, they are the same gun in design afterall. Just another open bolt blowback, but made in Taiwan instead of the US.
And to top it all off, a PT is 125+ dollars, while a new PGP is around 100, and an old style is 80 new, or 30-50 used. And there ain't nothing wrong with a used PGP.