Word on the new bolt

Lusson · 04-29-2001, 02:15 PM

Anyone got any info when its going to be comin out. I think alot of people are waiting to get a Matrix to see if the myth is true.

ernie · 04-29-2001, 03:51 PM

i'm one of those. i want to get one but i font hink i want to until i see it with the new mods.

DuMb-KiD-dReW · 04-29-2001, 06:18 PM

Well you know you got the intire Aardvark Crew on Pbnation now so when the bolt comes out we will garentee to let you know that very same day. So till then seat back and chill becasue they have to sell 1000 matrixes before the bolt comes out. If we told you a exact date then we would have chaos on our hands.

DKD

The Toyman · 04-29-2001, 09:09 PM

ok - I gotta call you on that one. "if we released the date it would be chaos" or whatever. If the date was known it would be published. The only reasons to not publish a date or bring it out now.
1) it is not coming at all
2) they dont know when it is coming
3) they are playing marketing games
4) the company is cash strapped
5) they made a deal with Diablo
6) they are afraid that if that the Matrix wont be on the market for long.

Which one is it (or 2)

I challenge you to give me a different reason!!

I dont believe that magic 1000 number. What company would knowing withold a marketable product. If they released it now then they would have less "chaos" then if there were more people waiting. Would you not sell every bit as many?

Jason

mr_mich · 04-29-2001, 09:15 PM

how about

7. It's not done yet.

The Toyman · 04-29-2001, 09:17 PM

That would have to fall under #2. If it is nearly completd why no timelie. not even a hint. Is it going to be a week or a year? I dont believe they know.

Jason

mr_mich · 04-29-2001, 09:21 PM

actually, it wouldnt fall under 2. because it could be anodizing, and lets say that it would be done in exactly one week. theyd know, and it just would be ready yet. so i win.

The Toyman · 04-29-2001, 09:43 PM

you may want to brush up on your reading skills there mitch. My post was that the only reason they have not released a date was... If it was anadizing, and going to be ready in a week or so - they would (If they were realy smart) say that it would be out in 3 weeks or a month. Their best guess +50%. They would say something a week or a year or whatever. Nothing against them. They may well be the best airsmiths ever. I LOVE my gun. - But I own a business and will always give my customers my best (if conservative) guess as to when there gun is going to be in or whatever. If I say 2 weeks and get it in 2 weeks the customer is happy. If it is only 2 days - they are realy happy. But if I say 2 days and it takes 2 weeks... do you see where I am going with this. I guess I could add 8) poor business sense. I must say it again - nothing against the boys who made the Matrix. They made the best paintball gun ever. I am just perplexed I cant get a straight answer.
All I want to know is it going to be a matter of days, weeks, or years for the "bolt"

Jason

Aardvark · 04-29-2001, 10:19 PM

I really enjoy the debate
Lets shed some light on this bolt thing
First. Richmond Italia told me that they have sold 1000 Matricies to date.
So what could it be. Hmmmm.....
Well Richmond, in the same breath told me that if it worked as well as I claimed, he would knock it off and make it himself...
He assured me a head start though, to allow me to make my R.& D. money back.
It could be that we are strapped for cash???
To help out, Buy Aardvark upgrade products from us direct, Or from a growing number of distributers. He He He..
Or maybe we are just taking the product from a single Prototype design, and converting it into a production thingy.. Bet that is it...
Richmond also is sending me a small herd of guns, so as I can debug and figgure tolerances, so that when you order a bolt kit, it won't leak and snort because we did not test the product first..
Or maybe the whole thing is just a ploy by one of the Co-designers if the gun to make you buy a trinity (that works really well I might add)..
The debate continues
E-mail me to order stuff to help us get out from this financial shortage we might have.
Duckman_007_99@yahoo.com
Phone 1 800 781-1151

GhettoVampyre · 04-29-2001, 11:46 PM

damn, aardvark i love your responses.

The Toyman · 04-30-2001, 12:08 AM

see - I knew it was a conspiracy!! I would love to help you out of your financial trouble and buy lots more stuff. Keep it coming.

Thanks for a straight response. Well sorta straight anyway

Jason

mrobnoxious · 04-30-2001, 12:47 AM

why not patent it? you should be able to make-up for the cost by selling about 15000 new bolts. Patents are expensive. And by the time you have it patented, 2-4 years, you might have the customer base you need. How about a timeline, 1 year to gather investers, 1 year to build manufacturing facility, and 2 years to show a return on your investment. So, in 4 years you might make a profit. So, Aardvark is doing what is in his best interest, hold out as long as he can, to build a customer base. Then flood the market and sale as many as he can until he gets copied by somebody. So let him take his time, so he can insure you "the customer" get the best quality possible. And quit bugging him so he can get back to work. I waited on the Excalibur for 2 years, and am very pleased with AKALMP, waiting isn't necessarily a bad thing, it builds character.

Paint_hore · 04-30-2001, 01:14 AM

Well if a 1000 Matrixi have been sold, then why isnt the bolt out yet? YOU guys were the ones saying the bolt will be released after a 1000 Matrixi have been sold, not us. NOW it needs further testing?
KNOWING that the idea would be copied,you picked 1000 so that you would be able to sell as many as possible, while making a profit and building a customer base.
Im not saying that this bolt doesnt exist, I am just getting frustrated with all these set backs. I bought my gun NOW, knowing that it wouldnt be long before a thousand were sold.
I must wait some more now? If this bolt wasnt ever talked about, I woulnt have bought a Matrix at all due to the inefficiency........the bolt is what made me buy it.
Now do we have to wait till 2000 are sold?

I WANT MY BOLT!!!!!

Synergy · 04-30-2001, 09:17 AM

I know the real story! hehe. I just wanted to chime in on this thread. Fatty, are you back yet. We need to talk.. Call me today at home. Jay

ES13Raven · 04-30-2001, 04:16 PM

Geez......people really want this bolt bad.

ernie · 04-30-2001, 06:22 PM

i would be counting the days too if i had bought one already. If it delivers what has been promised it could be fenominal to the guns performance.

Lusson · 04-30-2001, 06:57 PM

I think there is something that some persons (Synergy, Fatty, Others) that they are not telling us. Maybe they have been lying all the time, sorry guys but they way you were bragging saying when we sell a 1000 it will be released right away. Now our half has been done someone else is not putting up there half of the agreement kind of.

Buzz · 04-30-2001, 07:32 PM

Are you going by Serial numbers to determine if there is 1000 guns sold? I've seen alot of guns with serial numbers over 1000 even though the 1000 computer for them was just shipped out. I'm pretty sure they're not shipping them with no electronics in them.

The Bolt will be coming soon, don't worry about it be patient.

The Toyman · 04-30-2001, 09:02 PM

will it be a few weeks or a few months? This is the question nobody wants to answer. I dont expect an exact date - but come on. Take a guess

Jason

Lusson · 04-30-2001, 09:04 PM

Well I will believe it when I see it or hear from someone that it is true because at first like I said is they said as soon as 1000 were sold it would be out well nothing yet and they said it would even be a little longer because of testing or some crap like that.

mr_mich · 04-30-2001, 09:09 PM

do dojo/pbnation members getta discount on aardvark products? i think it was like a 10% or 5% i heard or somethin like that...